Criticize Israel’s handling of this and it’s all
ANTISEMITISM!
ANTISEMITISM!
It’s ridiculous.
It’s a 700 percent increase over the same period last year, and amounts to what the Biden administration has called an “alarming rise” of antisemitism on U.S. college campuses this fall.
The Hamas leaders are likely hiding in a luxury condo in Egypt.
I have called Netanyahu a crook and responsible for making things worse. One side is run by a Right Wing religious populist and the other by Terrorists who kill infants and steal food from their own people. But “from the River to the sea” is anti semitic, and protestors blocking Jewish students from going to class- that is indeed anti semitism.
And what do the protestors want? A ceasefire- do they think Netanyahu going to listen to them?
Yep, pro-Israel politicians bought out by AIPAC and groups like the ADL have weaponized “antisemitism” accusations against anybody criticizing Israel’s actions and history. It has gotten to the point where the term is becoming more and more meaningless, despite actual antisemitism still very much existing.
You mean, like accusations of “genocide”? Or the qay that “Zionist” has been turned into a slur to be barked at uppity Jews with dangerous ideas about self determination?
Some of those still exist, too.
The dog whistles aren’t even subtle anymore. iT’s AlL aBoUt ThE bEnJaMiNs.
It is a genocide. And calling someone a Zionist when they actually are a Zionist is not a slur. Biden is a Zionist for example.
Ilhan Omar was entirely right with her comments.
No, it absolutely isn’t; I’m a very proud Zionist. It’s the fact that your side thinks that “You support self detemination for ghe Jewish people!” is such a vile insult is very telling.
Like I said - no more subtle dog whistles. It’s all out in the open, mask off (other than the literal masks that Pro Hamas protestors wear, of course).
Let us see- by their own counting- about 35000 have been killed since Oct 7, out of about 600000. Not a very effective genocide. 5%. But Hamas started a war. Not Israel. Hamas killed several thousands of Civilians in a sneak attack, raped many, and took a bunch as hostages- which they refuse to return or account for- and clearly quite a few have died at their hands.
Now the Allies killed about 7 million Germans in WW2, about 10% of the population- was that genocide- or did they die becuase they started a War?
If someone starts a war and the other side kills a bunch of their people becuase they wont surrender- whose fault is that?
Netanyahu has made things worse- but does anyone actually think the IDF would have drove in and killed 35K or so - if Hamas had not attacked first?
Up until then it was- 'Hamas blows up a school bus or fires rockets into Israel- Israel retaliates. Over and over and over. But if it is “genocide” then what the Allies did to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan was also genocide. And no one thinks that. Hamas can end this at any time by accepting that “generous” peace proposal- and all they had to do was give back the hostages. They didnt have to surrender. They didnt have to pay for their atrocities. Just give back the hostages- and in return Israel was even willing to let a bunch of Palestinians go free from prison.
But NOOOO!- they had to say “well, we will give back a bunch of dead hostages”.
The war could end tomorrow- all Hamas has to do is release the hostages. And that is a very reasonable thing to ask.
Think about WW2- instead of unconditional surrender- if all the Allies would ask is all their POWs back- and they would return their POWs also. No surrender. No war crimes trials, nothing.
6 posts were split to a new topic: “Cis is a slur” movement on the right conversation
Again, that has nothing to do with this thread. Take it to a new one if you want my opinion.
Are we? We are certainly white when antisemites want to pretend that antisemitism is not a real problem.
I am not white even by your “Jews are whites when they complain but not white when they want to join a country club or marry someone’s daughter” standard. So, precisely as you are doing; keep it up! You’re doing great!
I note you haven’t engaged with a single historical fact I pointed out in this debate, just personal remarks and dismissing me as “White” therefore my concerns can ve ignored.
85+% of Jewish people worldwide are Zionists, and the vast majority of Zionists are not Religious Zionists (which is a very specific revisionist ideology that should not be confused with “Zionists who are religious” since those are very much not the same thing).
sToLeN lAnD memes are so tiresome. More empty rhetoric and emotional appeals.
Not liking your neighbors doesn’t justify launching wars to wipe them out over and over again. Israel is there and it’s never going away. If Palestinians can accept that, we can build two prosperous states. If they want to keep attacking us every few years while shouting about sToLeN lAnDs, we can all see where that trajectory is leading, yes? Then why the fuck encourage that?
Just to be very clear - if by “stolen lands” you mean the settlements, then yes, those need to go away as part of a peace deal that also establishes Palestine as a state.
If you mean Israel proper, grow up. That’s not happening. Neither is a “rIgHt” of return.
If you go look at groups like SJP’s own writings, they are talking about the latter, which is why I do not and never will support them (as explained by the Palestinian activist I linked earlier).
Yep, you’re white. At least 90% of Jews in this country are.
You were the one who brought up race by accusing me of “whitesplaining”. And I see more excuses than facts.
When their neighbors are actually their landlords and they constantly treat them like shit and take away more and more of their home, I can see why they lash out.
And you know I fall in that how…?
Most Jews in this country aren’t Israeli, either, and only about 50% of Israelis are white. Like one of my parents, but not the other.
You still haven’t addressed a single one, though 
keep dismissing them with handwaves like “your arguments are irrelevant, whitey” and “your liberation ideology is white supremacy”.
More empty rhetoric. Who is a “landlord” of the Gazans? This isn’t a Palestinian in East Jerusalem lashing out at his landlord, this is people in Gaza crossing into Israel and butchering lefty peacenik Kibbutzniks whose politics are probably closer to yours then mine.
And you defend that as “tHeIr LaNdLoRdS sUcKeD!!!”
Can you whitewash that a little harder please?
Maybe you are actually a black Jew or some other BIPOC, but given the statistics, you are far more likely to be white. But I’m tired of your race crap. Find another way to act like a victim, but I don’t care.