Basically, as the protestors marched down the street, a tank and an assault helicopter fired at the crowd. According to CNN, 24 people were killed and 82 wounded, 12 of them critically. Many of the casualties were children.
But surprise, surprise, Israel denies shooting into the crowd. Well, then, how did all those people get blasted to bits?
I am OUTRAGED by this! The US needs to stand up to this type of warmongering murder of civillians and children. Just take a look at the photos of this attack, it’s sickening. I’m so sick of Israel getting away with this shit.
First off, you have to know that most pro-Israeli supporters, at least on this website, do not support action on the part of the Israelis. That’s as far as I’m getting into that part of your OP.
Secondly, why the FUCK do you think the U.S. has any fucking business meddling in Israel’s affairs? The U.S. needs to pull back from “stand[ing] up to this type of warmongering”, not get deeper into it. Since both sides have shown a lack of being reasonable with regards to settling(though I think Israel has made MANY many honest attempts), the UN and the US really should not involve themselves or their resources in the matter.
Hmmm. So we have one side who makes a practice of wiring fanatics up in semtex suits and sending them to densly populated areas to detonate themself and as many civilians as possible for the greater glory of God, and another side who makes a practice of only responding directly to attacks, targeting specific terrorists for removal and always tries to minimize civilian casualties as much as possible.
I don’t think it’s Israel who you should be pointing the finger at for “getting away with shit”, even if they turn out to be in the wrong in this specific instance.
It easily could have been a noble young freedom fighter got sloppy with his explosives belt. Blue-on-blue incidents are not unknown among the Palestinians. Regardless, I wouldn’t be too eager to believe what the Palestinians say. Remember the bullshit claims regarding Jenin? Or the humorous incident with the Palestinian Lazarus?
Doesn’t excuse them, though. Man, what the hell were they THINKING?
There had better be a good reason for this, like the crowd actually were carrying stinger missles or shooting on the Israelis. I mean, seriously, what does this gain them? I can’t think of anything at all.
So we should just stay silent and let massacres like this take place? The military is massacring civilians and shooting missiles into crowds of protestors. If this were happening in any place other than Israel, we’d be all over that; at least we should issue an official reprimand or condemnation of the act. This is reprehensible. Does Israel really think this is a good way to stop terrorism? Every kid that lost a father today, or father that lost a son today, or boy who lost a friend, all of them are going to want revenge.
I think what Israel is doing to those people is terrorism too.
Don’t be a fucking retard, you know the censures will come down. The US and UN have consistently censured Israel for lesser actions than this, what makes you think they won’t this time?
I’m glad you do. Considering the Palestinians long-standing policy on attacking civilians, y’ought not throw stones in your little glass house. It’s ugly, and vile, reprehensible, unacceptable and inhuman, but so is exterminating pregnant women and children point-blank with automatic weapons.
What attack was this incident in response to? It was a protest!
Again, which specific terrorists were they targeting when firing into a crowd?
Did you miss this?: “According to CNN, 24 people were killed and 82 wounded, 12 of them critically. Many of the casualties were children.” These were civilians. No witnesses or reporters so far have published accounts that this was a “noble young freedom fighter got sloppy with his explosives belt” or people “carrying stinger missles or shooting on the Israelis.” There is not yet evidence of any of this.
It is precisely stuff like this that causes “fanatics in semtex suits” to blow themselves up. How is this stuff going to make anything better??
I’m pro-Israel, too, but I think we nee dto be really harsh with Israel ofr this, even to the point of recalling our ambassador or condemning them at the UN, and here’s why.
We have to mend fences with the Arab world right now. They think of us as nothing more than murdering imperialists who connive at the Israeli murder of innocents. If we want to be see as fair to both sides, then we have to condemn Israeli atrocities as harshly as we denounce Arab crimes.
But isn’t there a point at which actions like “shooting at protesters” or “bulldozing homes” gets added to this list too? It’s getting to be a bit much lately to portray them as the perfectly clean player in this.
It’s about time for something a little more bold than a “censure.”
Dude, I never ever condoned Palestinian violence. What they do to Israelis is revenge for shit like this. And stuff like what Israel did today is revenge for what Palestinians did. Back and forth and back and forth and back and forth…
To me, “exterminating children point-blank with automatic weapons” and having an assault helicopter blast a child to oblivion in a crowd are equally as bad.
Well, yea, except you selectively quoted from the CNN article:
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So, to sumarize, the Isralies my have been firing away from the crowd, what would be classified as a warning shot, there were armed Palistinians in the crowd, the Israelie government has a policy of NOT firing on civilians and the civilians were marching in an area where there are known to be land mines and the like, and most importantly, we don’t know precisely what happened yet
Sure sounds like the “warmongering murder of civillians and children” to me, yessiree Bob.
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…and that would be, in this case, the side that was engaging in a peaceful protest. Right.
…and that would be, in this case, the side that massacred the protestors. Gotcha.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. I think the US ought to quit giving military aid to the Palestinian terrorists, too, and ought to quit defending the Palestinian terrorists in the United Nations as well.
Like what? Invading and deposing? Carpet Bombing? Maybe cutting off our loans and imposing an embargo, prompting starvation and forcing the Israelites to lay down all of their weapons in the face of an enemy that attackes not soldiers but civilians as a standard?
All of this to our ONLY friend in the entire region? Fuck that.
and back and forth and back and forth…Ad Infinitum. For eternity until one smokes the other, yes. That appears to be their destiny.