Did I say that people shouldn’t help outsiders? No, I did not. I said that one has a greater obligation to their in-group. Acknowledging that different groups of people exist and that one should look out for one’s in-group is not a statement about the superiority or inferiority of any such group, nor does the need to help your in-group mean you cannot also help others or that you must harm others. I am simply saying that it is impossible to help everyone in the world that needs it and that therefore, if aid must be prioritized, it should be directed towards those groups to whom the individual is most closely tied because it is of mutual benefit to one’s society to do so.
I tend to lean to toward helping those most in immediate need if possible. But maybe I’ll make sure that none of my “kind” need assistance first (no matter how small) before helping the next white homeless guy I see. I wouldn’t want to damage society after all.
I’m not the one trying to distill everything down to race. I have mentioned over half a dozen factors that go into identifying in-groups and race or color have not been any of them.
The UAE sends the most aid=27%, followed by Turkey-19%, thern Saudi Arabia- 18% then Qatar (who also helosHamas) with 8%. Also Jordan, Tunisia , Rwanda, India and the EU. Aklso International aid, now the USA is helping with about 2Billion usd.
As the NYT said (see cite upthread) Humanitarian organizations have said that the problem is not a lack of available aid: The United Nations said it has enough food at or near Gaza’s border to feed the enclave’s 2.2 million people. Instead, humanitarian workers say they face challenges at every point in the process of delivering aid, through Israel’s security checkpoints and into an active war zone.
No, but neither were the Germans as a people the enemy of the Allies in WW2. Nor the japanese as a people. However, their leadership- and many of the people- committed acts of war and crimes against humanity, so that the German and Japanese people suffered due to their leadership. Also I wouldnt call the palestinians a 'race". I prefer “people”,
Yes, and my cite explained why. The food cant get in Gaza as long as Hamas makes it untenable to go in- not to mention the IDF slow rolling the inspections. There is food. Altho the IDF is doing inspections and slowing down the chain- the fact it isnt getting to the hungry people is due to Hamas.
Hamas is the one keeping all those trucks on the other side of the border? Because your cite, and yourself, say that it’s Israel.
This is one of my big issues with the Gaza/Israel War discussion on the Dope - Israel apparently has no agency. People die to Israeli bombs? Hamas’s fault. People starve because Israel limits aid across the border? Hamas’s fault. Israel kills three escaped hostages who are waving a white flag and retreating to safety? You guessed it, Hamas’s fault. Hamas is puppeteering the IDF and Israeli government and there’s nothing poor Israel can do about it.
You display some knowledge of the peoples you refer to. Let me just clarify a couple of things.
Semitic people is no longer used, the term being archaic1. Were we to use that term, then Hebrews would be among them.
I dislike the word ethnicity2 to a certain extent. For the sake of this post I’ll use it to refer to different peoples. Ethnic Egyptians, for example, have been shown to have close DNA with the ancient Egyptians (i.e. pyramid builders), something that racist and quasi racist have a hard time dealing with3. Moroccans, Algerians and Libyans are of Maghreb ethnicity. I could go on, but the point is that these people are NOT all Arabs, not even the Palestinians4.
They share a language in Arabic. To an extent. A Moroccan using their Arabic vernacular would have a hard time understanding an Iraqi who is using their vernacular. If they want to communicate, they shift to ‘High Arabic’, which - in my understanding - is how people read the Quran, sort of how Latin used to be lingua franca a thousand years ago in Europe.
The culture between different groups vary wildly. The Islamization in the 7th century made for some common ground, but to say it’s all the same from the Atlantic to the Persian Gulf is like saying all Christians in the U.S. share the same culture. There’s the American identity but there’s no way that Southern Baptists and Boston Catholics are basically the same culture, in the way you try to describe MENA.
If you want to boost your claims by quoting a Surah (It’s An-Nisa, btw) I can do the same with the Tanakh.
“Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt.” Exodus 23:9
“And if a stranger dwells with you in your land, you shall not mistreat him. The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus.19.33-34
1Link. 2 It seems to be a way to nebulously refer to race in some discourses 3 e.g. “Those towel heads? Building the pyramids. Bwaha” 4 The Levant has always been a crossroad and thus it has been trampled on, conquered, claimed, fought over since at least the bronze age and probably longer. Palestinians have some Arab DNA, other traces are from the Philistines (who are possibly the same as the Sea Peoples who in turn maybe came from the Aegean), the ancient Israelites (maybe not the Judeans, though). None of this is surprising, since every ‘great’ empire has raped and pillaged in the region
I stumbled across this tweet on X, which I felt really did an amazing job of summing up how I feel about the so-called “pro-Palestinian” movement. Surprisingly, it comes from a pro-Palestinian activist who grew up in Gaza.
Actually, I don’t really find that very surprising at all. I think the “pro-Palestinian” movement, in its current form, is not actually very pro-Palestinian at all; it is against Israel, and against what it views as Western Imperialism, but that doesn’t mean you are for anything.
So it isn’t too surprising to me that two people who want the same outcome - peaceful coexistence in two states - would want the same sorts of things.