Hardly; people have experienced terrifying near death experiences. As well as, again, blatantly silly, hallucinatory ones.
Of course there are explanations. The incident never actually happened, they overheard the conversations, or the supposed visions are the ultra-vague claims that have always been favored by frauds. it always turns out to be nonsense in the end.
I have heard conversations in other areas of the hospital, which seemed really funky until I realized it was because someone inadvertently left an intercom microphone open.
Still waiting for Parnia’s big-time experiment to have its results reported - the one where objects are being left high up on shelves in the O.R., so that prematurely fleeing spirits can waft up and check them out, later reporting back to us what they saw, assuming their custom-tailored near-death experience permits this (if it doesn’t, that would explain failure of the NDE theory, allowing believers to go on believing*).
Expecting failure, NDE enthusiasts are already making up excuses. (this NDEr argues that commonality of experiences is evidence in favor of NDEs, while karenrb 123 says that wide variations in reported experiences are evidence in favor of NDEs. This might seem confusing, but you gotta have faith).
It could be like Discworlds after life, in an infinite universe there are an infinite number of afterlives that cater to each individuals beliefs and expectations.
In an infinite universe contradictions could be realities.
Before anyone jumps on me, I am expressing this as one of a number of possibilitys not a deeply held belief.
Oh thank god, for a second I thought Lekatt was back.
How many different cultures does the show deal with? It’s not out there to think that if they only use, say, Americans, or Christian cultural regions in general that you’ll get a lot of these stories. It may be more convincing if 50 people from rural Japan or India get the exact same types of visions.
All of the NDE experience, although they are unique to each individual, are, in a broader scope, related. They all see themselves in a spiritual world, be it good or bad, they sense the presence of other souls, they reason and communicate with others and most striking is that their account of events have beginning, middle and ending.
I would suppose that dreams and hallucinations are not this organized. If NDE were dreams or hallucinations, they would experience other things, like being in a concert where Jimmy Hendrix was playing and then a tsunami came and they all became fishes and where sexually aroused and then you’d wake up while trying to light up a cigar…
It’s just the opposite with NDE. There is a sequence of events. It always end with either the spiritual being saying to them “It’s not your time” or “You have to choose if you want to stay or go back” to which they respond they want to go back. Or it’s something like, “you can’t stay”… In a hallucination, is there such a time when you are lucid enough to know that your hallucination is ending? I would doubt that. Correct me if I’m wrong please. I have yet to see a NDE where God says “welcome to heaven, you will be staying with us now” and then “uh ho” POOFF! the person comes back to life. Or one where they wake up right in the middle of a conversation…
Also, people who have had NDE never come back and say “wow! I was really out of it! What a wacky dream!”. All of the people who have had NDE’s are certain that what they experience was real, that it made perfect sense to them and that it was a life changing spiritual experience.
If the spirit and the brain are linked (which I believe they are and this is another topic), the whole astronaut test where they pass out and have a small NDE does not contradict the NDE being a real spiritual thing. I read somewhere that these astronauts didn’t have a full NDE, but only saw the light at the end of the tunnel. I’m not sure if that’s true, but it would make sense.
I can assure you that in the country where I live, not USA, people have the same experience. 
That’s what I was thinking, because the experiences mentioned in this thread do all have some things in common - they are all similar to standard cultural depictions of NDEs/heaven that are most Westerners will have had prior exposure to. Just as UFO sightings all tend to draw on similar cultural themes could the brain not just be telling the concious mind what it’s expecting to see?
No, they don’t.
Who are you to say what people may dream about?
No, it doesn’t.
Sometimes, yes there is. You are wrong.
This, also, is not true.
If you read this, it isn’t true.
And what country might that be? I’d like to do a little independent research on NDE experiences in that area.
Before you do that…Fairy Ana, can you give us some idea of what we’d have to find that would cause you to admit you’re wrong? Can you make a falsifiable statement for us to investigate? You’ve made a lot of claims so far, but I want to know whether you’ll change your mind if/when we find evidence that contradicts those claims. Will you?
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All of the NDE experience, although they are unique to each individual, are, in a broader scope, related. They all see themselves in a spiritual world, be it good or bad, they sense the presence of other souls, they reason and communicate with others and most striking is that their account of events have beginning, middle and ending.
“No, they don’t.”
Right, they don’t. I realize that there are NDE in which the person only goes as far as perceiving himself or herself as a conscious being outside their body. Others only experience going into the tunnel. But my point is that when the NDE does extend into further experiences, it is unique but it is always related to a spiritual journey. Unless you care to show me one that isn’t.
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I would suppose that dreams and hallucinations are not this organized. If NDE were dreams or hallucinations, they would experience other things, like being in a concert where Jimmy Hendrix was playing and then a tsunami came and they all became fishes and where sexually aroused and then you’d wake up while trying to light up a cigar…
“Who are you to say what people may dream about?”
I’m not saying that’s what people dream about. I know people who don’t remember ever having dreamt. I just gave an example of a disconnected dream, and there are various types of dreams, we all know that from our own experience. My point is that from all the more elaborate reports on NDE (the longer NDE experiences such as the ones in the series) that I came across so far, I have never seen a story told that seemed like the more common types of dreams that people, such as myself, have.
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It’s just the opposite with NDE. There is a sequence of events. It always end with either the spiritual being saying to them “It’s not your time” or “You have to choose if you want to stay or go back” to which they respond they want to go back. Or it’s something like, “you can’t stay”…
“No, it doesn’t.”
Well, than please show me someone who experienced an NDE where they felt their time had finally arrived to stay in afterlife, they perceived that they were already definitely settled in that situation and that they were shocked to notice that suddenly they were alive again.
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In a hallucination, is there such a time when you are lucid enough to know that your hallucination is ending? I would doubt that. Correct me if I’m wrong please
“Sometimes, yes there is. You are wrong.”
I never hallucinated, I wouldn’t know. 
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Also, people who have had NDE never come back and say “wow! I was really out of it! What a wacky dream!”. All of the people who have had NDE’s are certain that what they experience was real, that it made perfect sense to them and that it was a life changing spiritual experience.
“This, also, is not true.”
Than please show me. Although I would understand that in the shorter NDE’s (simply looking at the tunnel , for instance) wouldn’t be that life altering and may be not even that convincing. But the longer, more interesting stories are harder for that not to happen. Again, I’m open for you to show me otherwise.
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If the spirit and the brain are linked (which I believe they are and this is another topic), the whole astronaut test where they pass out and have a small NDE does not contradict the NDE being a real spiritual thing. I read somewhere that these astronauts didn’t have a full NDE, but only saw the light at the end of the tunnel. I’m not sure if that’s true, but it would make sense.
“If you read this, it isn’t true.”
You can’t prove that it isn’t true.
NM
Don’t have to. If you can’t prove it is true, then it isn’t. No further debate is necessary.
At the very least, could you give us some cites for the information you have put forth?
What is a spiritual journey, and how do you know if something is or isn’t one?
Isn’t is possible that people who have those types of dreams under sedation just don’t report them as NDEs because that’s not what an NDE is supposed to be?
The astronauts don’t have a “full” NDE because they don’t lose consciousness, or don’t lose consciousness for an extended period. The test results do indicate that the experience - whether it’s a long, involved hallucination or a few seconds - is related to oxygen deprivation.
Never mind. I just realized this is a zombie thread. (Bit of irony there, don’t you think?)
If only the thread could tell us what it saw while it was dead. 
I suggest you take a course in basic logic. If you have, then you need a refresher course.
On the other hand, if no evidence is brought forth to support a theory that goes against known science, no evidence is necessary to dismiss it.