I think that survival kits should have suicide tools.

I honestly think that a survival kit - something that someone would bring on hiking, cave exploring, adventuring, etc etc etc, and to be found on a boat, for instance… should have something to cause a quick and painless death. Although those kits are designed to keep the person alive, sometimes the owner of the kit would find itself stranded in the middle of nowhere, with no food, no more water and no ways of going on. So, instead of suffering a terrible death to dehydration, hunger, bear mauling, heat exhaustion, hypothermia, drowning or any other terrible death the person would be able to end his/her suffering at once.
Of course, it would also make a lot of sense to add a satellite phone and a power generator to the survival kit. But if I was stuck on the middle of the ocean with no more food, no more water and no means to communicate with the outside world I would really like to die instead of suffering. Would that even be legal? Do you think that it is ethical to have such a thing on a survival kit?

Just re-label the spork as a “spork/suicide tool”. You’d have to be pretty motivated but you could probably get the job done with a spork.

I’m fairly sure that if I were in the business of selling survival kits, my reaction would be “If you want that, fine - go buy it from someone else.”

Note that there are plenty of cases where people in distress found the fortitude to endure amazing strife and hardship, and consequently survived.

Have we become such urbanized aesthetes that we no longer remember the practical ways of our ancestors, who managed to slit their own veins with anything handy that happened to be sharp? Tsk tsk.

“Shoot, a fellah could have a pretty good time in Vegas with all that stuff. ‘Cept the cyanide pills. Why’d they go an’ put a fool thing like that in there?”

Stranger

Would you call it “suicide survival kit?” That might confuse people.

Or, ordering online, the choices would be Survival Kit - Survive Only, or Survival Kit - Suicide Option.

I’m pretty sure if I was in a situation where a survival kit was available, I would have a knife available, too. Slit longways, not across.

I don’t know. Shoot yourself in the head with the flare gun or something.
They say being eaten by a bear is just like falling asleep…in a giant furry blender.

Now that’s attention-seeking…

The situations where you’re going to be without any hope of rescue or survival, and are inevitably going to die of starvation or thirst, are extremely rare. Even if you are lost at sea there’s almost always going to be some chance a boat will find you before you succumb.

The most likely suicide option would have to be a pill. But such pills would be used far more often to commit suicide by people who were not in a survival situation (just because they were suicidal) than used in the extremely rare situation you propose.

I can’t help but think rescue parties would more that probably would have survived till their discovery without using the pill than those who used it and wouldn’t have survived. Starvation sucks but you can go weeks without food. How many days into not eating before most would pop the pill because they felt hopeless even though they had a couple weeks left before starvation killed them?

I’m thinking of the ending of “The Mist” right now (movie version). Couldn’t wait another 45 seconds, huh? :smiley:

I’m so damn urbanized, if a survival kit is a real necessary, I know I won’t make it. Suicide pill or some gross but effective method will not me necessary in my case. I can imagine trying to sun dry the meat from the forest’s most pathetic looking possum and trying to keep that in my stomach while fantasizing about Tums or Rolaids.

No matter the situation, a natural death would probably be better without the suicide part. :wink:

Those are the cases that get recounted in books and movies. In how many similar situations did the person just die a long and agonizing death?

In most cases where people die of exposure they are already experiencing hypothermia, so they’re not thinking very clearly. These are not the people you want messing around with cyanide tablets because they are not very good a evaluation a situation clearly. Or at identifying which are the ibuprofen and which are cyanide in a whiteout.

Suicide tablets are not needed in an emergency kit and no one is going to sell you one anyway.

And if the Suicide Survival kit was a success, you could broaden your market to those in other dire circumstances with no prospect of escape: the Suicide Commuter kit, the Suicide Stagnant-relationship kit, and so on.

I think you may be onto something, there…

Stranger

Sounds like a new option for the hapless crew in Lifeboat.

“Day 47. Still no sign of rescue. I slipped the cyanide pill in Dave’s trout cuz he was drinking all my rain water. MY PRECIOUS RAIN WATER!”
Day 48. Holy shit! A boat! RESCUE!!!

Artemis_Tardis, have you considered either a miter saw, or piano wire and super glue, or a lamp, or a fart?

Insurance company case 113.a: Claimant had a life-insurance policy with a clause exempting suicide. Claimant went on a trip into the back of beyond and used the suicide pill. Claimant had been on several similar trips in the weeks before, but we believe that was as preparation for finding somewhere to take his pill. Claim denied.

I think it’s a bad idea. If I had one in my car, I would be tempted to use it every time I’m stuck in traffic for 10 minutes.