Worrying about the opinions of psycho nutjobs?
I wonder if part of the nuance in identifying happy vs pained shrieks is based on your own experience living with kids.
My wife is an only child, and we’ve never had kids, and she tends to be more edgy around the noise under the usual unavoidable circumstances: restaurants, airplanes, the doctor. To her, they’re largely the same. I tend to think I’m little better, as I have a brother 14 years younger than I am, and had a good bit of exposure, but I’m a lot more sensitive than my other brother, who has 2 kids of his own.
None of this should be taken as support of the shooter, just that the level of comfort with children and the ability to differentiate is likely experiential as much as anything.
Personally, I kind of like the shrieking of kids in the distance. I live in an older suburb, with relatively few kids except those visiting, and at least 30 feet between me and the sidewalk, and at that range it rarely bothers me, even into the late evening.
As for the shooter, what keeps making me crazy is the fact that they were a known issue to the police. I’ll slow roll my WTF until we get more details, but why do I suspect they’ve had a past with violent behavior, possibly domestic?
Oh fuck off with this bullshit.
I’m not going to pander to your crazy ass or any other piece of shit who threatens throw a temper tantrum and kill children if they don’t get their way.
Are you a rage alcoholic, or something maybe your chignon is too tight?
Worrying that anyone who approaches you is a potential murderous psychopath who will react with violence at the slightest provocation. That’s a great way to turn yourself into a psycho nutjob.
Of course they shouldn’t do it all the time. I have a niece that when young would scream with excitement. It was astounding, and painful.
But is this not a self defense system for little kids? Of course if they do it all the time, it’s like a car alarm going off - “whatever”
Some people like the sound of happy children at play, even if they shriek.
Some people really dislike the sound of shrieking, even if it’s happy children at play.
There’s enough people in category B that the responsible adults should make an effort to train the kids not to make shrieking noises unless in distress.
In return for these efforts, even if not 100% successful, those of us who hate the noise will tolerate it while the children learn / grow out of it / etc., and nobody shoots anybody.
I can’t help but wonder if race was a factor, just given the names of the individuals in the article.
The children aren’t doing it purposely to annoy you, so it doesn’t bother me.
Luckily, most kids eventually grow out of it–but one aspect is that, just as parents no longer hear the noise, kids also no longer hear their parents telling them to knock it off. Two houses down I had one kid who was especially a shrieker and when they’d get on their bikes with the other kids and shriek their way up and down the street right past my open windows it got to be a lot. So one day as they were shrieking away I called the whole bunch of them to stop a minute and from behind my fence I just told them straight up that screaming and shrieking isn’t fun for others to have to put up with and I’d really appreciate it if they’d either learn to not do that or not do that by my windows. And, being pretty decent kids, they really made a good effort to mind their noise levels around me and eventually they outgrew the shrieking stage. Now, that family also has a barky dog that nobody ever tells to shut up and he gets my overly barky dog going a lot but not much I can do about that aside from telling mine to hush or bringing him inside if he can’t moderate his own excitement levels. Like kids, I can hope he outgrows his barkiness some because he has this piercingly shrill bark that’s like an ice pick through the head. It bugs the hell out of me, so I do my best to moderate it for the neighbors. Because that’s how good neighbors do things.
This reminds me of a news story twenty years ago that happened somewhere in the bay area. I read that a man had killed someone in the halfway house where he lived, and before I read more I thought “I bet that someone else was really noisy and they got on some unstable person’s last nerve.”
I read further. The suspect had gone to tell someone on his floor to turn down their loud TV, and the TV watcher said “Go away and shut up, you crazy old man.” The old guy killed the TV watcher. I was right!
Oh! another bad man with a gun thread. What about the highly educated female doctor oncologist and mother who just shot her 4 month old, 4 month old! daughter, before shooting herself. No one will talk about that because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
Doctor fatally shot 4-month-old baby then herself, police say (live5news.com)
If the narrative is that widespread legal availability of firearms makes it more likely that disturbed people will do horrible things, I’d say it fits perfectly.
Unless the four-month-old was too noisy, it certainly doesn’t fit the narrative of this thread. In general, though, I’d still have to say that I’m against shooting children regardless of the extenuating circumstances.
Coincidentally, I’m also against shooting human beings regardless of the extenuating circumstances. But this particular case sounds like work stress and / or post-partum depression is a likely factor, and so it’s more tragic than villainous.
They only do it to annoy
because they know it teases.
Unless the baby was killed because it was too noisy (not mentioned in the stories I’ve seen), that case isn’t relevant to this discussion.
Or a rational self-defense mechanism at a Proud Boys rally.
I mean, the best form of self-defense there is to not be there at all, really.
That 4 month old girl should have armed herself. Its called the second ammendment because sometimes you only get two seconds to respond.
I have no doubt that if you start a thread on your baby-shooting event you’ll get plenty of comment. You could even cross link that OP to a post in this thread so we can readily find it.
By the way, “narratives” are artificial things propagandists create to control their audiences. The real world does not contain narratives. Just events. The majority of which don’t form any kind of sensible pattern; they don’t tell a story, and they especially don’t tell a “just so” story with a climax and a moral. Events just are.
Holy cow! This took an uglier turn.
I really don’t understand what “narrative” it is that that story doesn’t fit, and what it has to do with this thread?
I assume some sad sack MRA/redpill/incel nonsense. He needs to make himself the real victim in this situation.