I use a PC...

I get it now. PC users “scream” and “shout” and “rant”.

Mac users get full of righteous indignation and get overly defensive if their precious little boxes may come under insult.

No it isn’t. It has one word in caps (the word “Hate”), which is used to emphasize the fact that-- horror of horrors!-- he dislikes single-button mice. Not Macs. That’s “shouting”? That’s “ranting”?

Look, you read this thread, you read other threads, you read other message boards, and you’ll always find the same thing in the PC vs. Mac debate… most everyone has some reliance on their own personal opinion. Pro-Mac users tell me that “PCs are glitchy and have all sorts of crashes”. I tell them “No they don’t.” Me? Haven’t had any problems with our PCs.

I have great respect for Macs. I just wouldn’t use one. Why? I’m quite satisfied with my PC, thanks very much :slight_smile: Don’t need to spend more money to replace something I don’t need to replace.

Besides, I’ll always believe that a “computer” should be a beige box.

Yes, some of them sure do.

I’m sure some of them do. All I know is - when I first got a PC and told my Mac friends that I had a PC, they didn’t start a whole “Anti-PC” diatribe, and preach to me about how I didn’t have a “real” computer. But PC users will do this when I reveal I have a Mac. Just relaying my personal experiences.

A small excerpt of one of Monster’s posts, which had an abundant use of all caps. And some profanity, too!

And on and on, rant rant rant. What else would you call it?

That’s fine with me. If you like your PC, if you have no problems with it, why should I care? More power to you! You are happy happy happy! But there’s a difference between saying that you are satisfied with something, and saying that someone else is stupid in being satisfied with something you don’t like.

Once again, fine with me! Why would I care? I have a PC as well, I don’t intend to get rid of it. If you like a product, why would you let anyone persuade you to not use it?

If you want it beige, I don’t care, have it beige!

But I have asked this on another thread recently - people like to have color and style in their cars, they take the appearance and style of their car very seriously. People don’t make fun of that - we all tend to enjoy having a car with some color and style. So why not with computers as well? If you think a “computer” should be beige, then why shouldn’t a “car” be only beige (and boring) as well? Why don’t we all drive boring beige things? They’re serious machines, after all - they are designed to get us from one place to another - so what’s the deal with all the colors and shapes and styles of automobiles?

I’m not saying that everyone has to like the Mac colors, but I don’t understand why some people are so annoyed by them. I doubt that the people who take little pot-shots at the Mac colors have the same attitude about car styles and colors. Seriously - do any of you laugh at people who have snazzy, stylish cars, and imply that beige ones are better? I doubt it.

Oops! Sorry, I named the wrong ranter. It was Blockhead that did all the ranting. But ranting (and profanty) it was. On this thread. That was my point.

It’s alright Yosemitebabe. I didn’t think I had posted something in all caps…I try to be a little more levelheaded than that.

I look at it quite simply, actually…a Mac generally costs more than an a system with similar specd, but also outperforms the pc system as well. However, if you get a higher priced pc, you can outperform a Mac, and still save money.

Everyone gripes and complains about Win9x unstability, but why do you think MS is making new OSes? I haven’t heard many complaints with the stability of -NT or -2000. In fact, the only complaints I’ve heard about 2000 is that there isn’t enough software yet. Many people are anticipating Windows ME to be just as stable as 2000. What would an Apple Advocate then have against PC’s, if stability issues are settled?

Speaking as someone who uses both platforms, I’d still like the Mac for many reasons, even if Windows were more stable. The interface seems easier and more elegant, troubleshooting is easier, there are all sorts of little features that I prefer. (Of course, there are a few features in Windows I still prefer over Macs - they are just different platforms!)

Also, the Mac interface still seem to be more oriented towards artists, and more appealing for arty types - for that reason alone the Mac will always have supporters.

Eh… with computer speeds being what they are now, the difference has grayed (gasp! A P-III is thirteen milliseconds slower!).

Of course, I’m only referring to the crappy stuff I do (I keep my computer-generated artwork to a minimum :D), and I do know that a lot of big-time art projects really DO need a G4 to get going (ever try to do an 80-point Gausian Blur on a 4000X6000 picture?).

The only thing that gets my goat now about Macs is how the iMac is touted as the ultimate in video editing. In actuality, any video editing you do on an iMac with the included software will always appear ameteurish. That’s just how an iMac is, it’s an appliance.

Now, those G4 towers (or the new G4 Cube… ::drool::…) I’d love to get my hands on those. Why haven’t I yet? Money. But just wait… just wait…

So my argument isn’t so much as one of “Mac vs. PC” but “iMac vs. G4”.

I don’t have a DV iMac, so I can’t speak for it’s video editing capabilities. But I never got the impression it was the “ultimate” in video editing. I got the impression it was an easy computer to do your home editing on. Everything is set up for you. If that is what you mean by “appliance”, (meaning, it’s easy and all set up for a specific task) then yeah, I suppose the term fits. But otherwise, I don’t consider my iMac an “appliance”. I just created a very nice drawing on it (with my drawing tablet and Photoshop) and I don’t think any “appliance” could do that!

I also don’t think speed (as in “horsepower”) is the ultimate determining factor in computer preference. If a computer’s clock speed is slower, but you find you can get around it better, you feel more comfortable with the interface, you can troubleshoot it easier, you feel you have less glitches, etc., then that might make it preferable to you, even if it is technically “slower” on benchmark tests.

Well, I will say that troubleshooting is difficult on a Windows platform the first time you experience a certain kind of problem. I know very well. However, once you learn the capabilities of a PC and Windows, you will start experiencing far less problems. I stand by the position that many Windows horror stories are caused by newbie programmers/computer geeks (Like me) that either think they’re hot shit or are just learning how to do stuff for the first time (Like me).