I Used to Privately Snicker at the Dems

Politics is the business of being re elected. They are swollowed up by a structure that demand money to compete. If we dont publically fund elections we will continue to sell our country to the highest bidder.
No repub could risk blowing the whistle. A highly organized and punative repub party would have killed him. His funding would dissappear and the right wing media would rip him apart.
The system is broken. It does not work for the people.

Nobody’s fault but ours. The power is ours, always has been. If we let ourselves get conned and gulled by snake-oil salesmen, well, shit, next time fuck us harder! If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

I do not believe that this is an accident. :mad:

Let’s see the Republican head of the committee Missing and Exploited Children is a predatory pervert himself. I wish I could get myself as worked up as the OP about the apparently bottomless hypocrisy of the Republican leadership, but there’s only so long that you can marvel at something you see day after day. The only thing that will top this incident is the bottomless hypocrisy shown by the majority of Republican voters next month, who pride themselves on being the guardians of morality in society, as they turn out in droves to vote for every single Republican who knew about Foely’s tendencies and practices and did nothing.

So, Bricker. Northern Vriginia. Looking at a map, it looks like your rep is Eic Cantor, Jo Ann Davis, Tom Davis, Virgil Goode, Bob Goodlatte, Jim Moran orFrank Wolf. Whoever it is, if this person who has brought about such a great sea change in your opinion were to turn out to be among those who knew but did nothing, would you vote for their competitor, or at least not vote for that person this year? that would be the only thing that would raise your prncipled stance above the level of hot air.

OK?

I’d be curious to hear Bricker’s honest, weasel-free response to this.

What about it, Doper Republicans? Any chance this incident is revealing of ongoing Republican strategy? Or is it really just a fluke?

One is reminded of awe on Timothy Busfield’s face in Field of Dreams, when he can finally see all of the ballplayers that we’ve all been watching for most of the film.

Yes - I would absolutely vote for the competitor of any person wo knew but did nothing. Not only vote for – I’d write his competitor a check.

That’s like saying that now that the guy’s been found guilty of a bank robbery, we can safely pin ALL the unsolved bank robberies on him.

I’m willing to look at any particular issue you care to raise. But I do not make the leap from this incident to assuming that every word out of every elected official with an ‘R-’ in front of his name is a lie, no.

Hey, some people have to actually see water turned into wine before they have their come to Jesus moment.

The Democrats should be taking note of all this for future reference, though. Lies to start an illegal war? Thousands of Americans dead and maimed over a losing struggle? Shady campaign contributions? Outing of CIA operatives? Chipping away of constitutional protections? Blooming deficits? Ann Coulter’s whippet face? None of these issues will sufficiently enrage the public and cause people to question their loyalities. But anything involving sex will.

Well, at least the homo type.

Very well said.

Bricker -I am not asking you to see the R and think “liar”, and I don’t think anyone else is, either. What I would like is that you and other rabidly partisan people to evaluate the statements and actions of any politician on its own merits. To use an example, if someone speaks of freedom repeatedly, but supports indefinite imprisonment and delay of trial, if any–does that jive with the concept of freedom as we commonly know it? If someone speaks of the urgent need to wean ourselves off of foreign oil, but gives token or no support to programs that would boost alternative sources of energy, which do you believe? The pretty speeches or the legislation/deal making?

I am not pointing fingers at anyone party or pol or poster. I am trying to say that maybe instead of seeing the D and immediately putting on the “snicker” glasses, you might want to listen, and read up on the actions of that D. Same with any R. Instead of putting on the “he is an R, so he is morally upright” glasses, look at what R says and does.

Then decide.
We all take these short cuts to shoe box others into manageable types-we depend on external cues to tell us about other people. We judge others on their speech, height, make of car, whatever. But when it comes to politics, especially today, we cannot afford to trust blindly and follow the ones with the reputation for X. Reputations have a way of being either wrong or wrongly earned. Just my 2 cents.

My goodness, what a large chip we have on our shoulder today!

Regards,
Shodan

Oh, I’m sure it is. Check out this famous image from another channel in the News International stable.

Bingo.

Bricker, I’m glad you aren’t drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. But hell, even the Moonie Paper has called for Hastert’s resignation, so I don’t see that this is all that praise-worthy.

The gap between this Administration’s actual conduct, and the “traditional platform elements of social and economic conservatism,” is so huge that it’s hard to see how a person of any integrity could miss it.

As just one example, consider the continual gap between the situation on the ground in Iraq as this Administration has described it over the past three years and five months, and how practically every other informed observer has described it during that time - and how much the Administration’s blindness has cost us (and the citizens of Iraq) due to its failure to deal with Iraq as it is, rather than Iraq as it has imagined it.

Bearing false witness on an elephantine scale about the major issue of the decade has nothing to do with “traditional platform elements of social and economic conservatism.”

I think what people are trying to get across, Bricker, is that your OP reads like this is the first time in your entire life you’ve seen a Republican spin/cover up job.

Did you really use to believe that?

Linky no worky-work.

Yes, thank you for this critique, Bricker. What with this and that, you might be developing a reputation as the second coming of Reeder.

Just kidding; please put down that taser. What is that, the Mark IV model? Sweet.

As long as you’re up, may I trouble you for a follow-up to this?

Try this one.

Nope. Can you provide a way to get it from Snopes’ home page? I tried to search for “Skybush” but got nothing.

Hokay, try this one.