Those two statements go hand in hand, right? I would have thought that most professionals would insist on condoms for oral as well. I know the chances of getting a disease through oral are lower, but if you’re doing this multiple times a week, that sounds pretty risky.
It depends on your definition of “risky”. I would say it is a combination of the chance of catching something and the cost of catching something. Officially the health professionals (here in the Netherlands at least) state there is no realistic risk for HIV through unprotected oral sex (unless you have bleeding sores in your mouth and genital area). There is a small risk for transfer of chlamydia, gonorrhea or syphilis (far less than with normal sex). As long as you get tested regularly and don’t carry the disease for a long time, the cost is a single dose of antibiotics and a week not working.
More importantly, the amount of people in western countries that carry an STD is very, very low. And your client has to have a disease first, before he can give it to you.
In practice many professionals, as you call them, find these risks acceptable. In my experience 90%+ (and that is a low estimate, but there might be venues where the percentages are lower) and from what I hear and read this is no different in the US.
This doesn’t mean that all girls go sifting through the CDC website or read up on scientific studies. Many girls start out by just doing what “the other girls” are doing. That’s what I meant with girls not knowing much about STDs; often their reason for doing something or not (as well as prices that are being charged), are mostly linked to what they see and hear from other girls. Again, just my experience.
This is the internet, not a country.
Assuming you’re talking about the US, there probably are (proportionately) fewer migrant sex workers there because it’s easier to migrate within Europe, but that’s not really the point. The middle ground of women who don’t absolutely love doing sex work but prefer it to the other options available to them, whether that’s cleaning or flipping burgers or doing retail or office work, is much larger than the extremes of women who do absolutely love it or women who don’t have other options. That’s as true for the US as it is where I’m sitting.
It’s not “par for the course everywhere”. It’s illegal in some places where sex work itself is not illegal, such as New Zealand and parts of Australia. In online advertising some will specifically state whether or not they do OWO (oral without a condom). Many don’t.
This is also an effect of “end demand” laws. When there are fewer clients, sex workers will do things they wouldn’t normally do, because the alternative is making less money than they used to.
Since July 1st, it has been illegal in Germany as well. I can tell you it has made little to no difference. The law is “deemed unenforceable” according to some local police spokes person.
I never said everyone offers this, but many do. Especially when extra payment is offered. Then again, maybe New Zealand and Australia are different from the rest of the world.
Sure, preferences of clients play a role here, just as for offering kissing or anal. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it is only offered in “desperation”. Very popular and very busy girls also offer these services. As I said, in many venues it is pretty normal and often not even something that is discussed. Mostly because there seem to be relatively few problems that arise from this practice.
In any case, I only wanted to make the point that a girl that doesn’t use protection for oral is not per definition someone who is careless or oblivious about her health.
Really? “Most”?
I’m trying to remember if I’ve ever come across anyone at a party, or a dinner, or any occasion of any kind, who could conceivably have been a companion that was “hired” by way of a routine online service, just to accompany someone for an event. I don’t think it ever happens. (Though maybe I just don’t belong to the right circles.) It’s either for sex, or not at all.
In a way, if this actually happened, it would be much more interesting than what the OP is describing (simple prostitution).
So much of the joking here revolves around the completely farcical use of the euphemism, escort. Yes, of course there are rich people whose money effectively attracts companions, but somehow I don’t think it happens through Craigslist or whatever, as the OP describes. (My sense is that Melanie Trump is actually a full-time, 24/7 “escort” in this sense, but I doubt Trump found her by going online.)
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I’m only going on what you write. I guess I assumed you meant the U.S. If not, which country are you referring to where women come from all over the world to become sex workers? ETA: somewhere in Europe prob.
I have every intention of stopping. I didn’t come here looking for validation as who would ever condone this?
idk, but something about being with a hot young petite girl triggered a signal in my brain that I had to be with them.
huh? But once you’re with them, you’re already with them? Or do you mean, once you’re with them, it triggers a signal in your brain for more?
When do you plan on stopping?
Here’s the math. I had sex with about 25 escorts over 5 years or so. Most in the first 3 years. I had slowed down in years 4 and 5. I probably did 15 blow and go’s.
25 full service (FS) X $125 on average = $3,125
15 blow and go X $70 = $1,050
Total estimate is $4,175
I paid $400 for FS 2 times. The first time was a rip off. It was self finish. The low I paid was $60 and she was hot and eventually got into web cam business.
It usually started out by getting an urge at work, going onto website and looking at ads. Once I saw a hot girl in an ad, I just had to pursue it.
My last escort was around a year ago. I have only seen 1 or 2 in the last couple years.
That’s not really an answer as to when you plan on stopping.
Quit today.
So upthread you said you don’t think you’re very attractive and could never in your life have been able to have sex with a “hot” young woman unless you paid for it. You also said there’s an oddly unfulfilled, empty feeling after these encounters. Are those two things connected?
I mean, I get that you can pretend this attractive young woman finds you attractive, but underneath, you’re sure it isn’t so, and you know you’re just the necessary means to a paycheck, right? If you were just interested in easy sex or clandestine sex or something, it’d be different, but that doesn’t seem to be your motivation.
It seems pretty empty to me. Actually, it seems depressing. Am I missing something?
Sadly, it’s not mind boggling to me, it’s business as usual. A former business associate who was fairly high up in a drug cartel used to mock me, and I quote, because I was “the dumb ass who thinks whores actually count as people.”
Counter-cite - Lies, damned lies and sex work statistics
This is either a whoosh or complete bunk because yes you fucking can, and fairly easily at that. Heroin is cheap, as far as illegal drugs go.
Thanks for the Post link above. I’ve seen a lot of misinformation out there on this topic. Sadly, attempts to bring rational inquiry to bear are usually met with contempt.
On heroin and the minimum wage: I’ve been under the impression that it is difficult to maintain a basic standard of living on minimum wage, at least without other assistance. How cheap is heroin these days?
Bull fucking shit. Firstly, there is more that works against an active heroin addict successfully holding a 9-5 minimum job besides just the cost of the drugs (and even that I am extremely dubious about. It certainly isn’t cheap where I live. YMMV). Heroin addicts, other than the outliers who do manage to function with their addictions, are extremely non-functional and live according to the cycle of their addictions.
Now, that is not to say someone who is just becoming an addict, say someone who snorts or smokes heroin, can’t hold it together for a while and hold down a job. They can. But even when they have outside resources that allow them to devote their paltry income to drugs, can’t maintain that dynamic indefinitely. Heroin addiction usually always progresses to injecting. And then you meet a whole 'nother beast. I totally, without pause believe, based both on my personal experiences and everything I’ve read and learned about the subject, that nothing but the smallest minority of heroin addicts can maintain their addiction while simultaneously functioning in society.
ETA: If we are talking about what is possible, then yes, I will concede that it is possible to do both full time work and maintain a heroin addiction. But that the exception, not the rule.