Posting this here so that I don’t get another official warning for challenging a Mod’s statements in the thread where they occurred, re: this
tomndebb, I was ridiculing F-P’s post, not him.
Note the characterization of his remarks, my reference to the thread he started and then again to his remarks that I’ve seen in the past and how I now view his remarks when he posts something new.
At no time did I slam him; only his remarks. In fact, my post was a parody of the OP in that thread. I was using satire to point out how ridiculous the contention of the OP was. Perhaps a smiley would have been appropriate to underscore the satire, but I felt it would dilute the scathing nature of my post.
To be clear: at no time, then or now or in the future, would I ever seek to ridicule or denigrate another poster in GD or any other forum except for The Pit.
I understand that I was not given a warning, but I still felt the need to contest the Mod note.
A claim that the poster has a habit of doing bad things is an actual challenge to his statements?
An invitation to judge the poster based on a claim that his behavior is unproductive?
I saw no challenge to an actual statement, just a claim that the poster posted badly with an invitation to other posters to chime in with more such accusations.
In the middle of a thread in which the charges of bad logic and unsupported facts have already piled up after multiple posts, I would probably not bother getting involved as long as the thread was not yanked off the rails. As an early post before any actual discussion had taken place, that was a direct attack on the poster without pointing out a single “error” in his post, I am going to suggest that such attacks are way too close to threadshitting and are not appropriate.
As I said, it was an attempt to parody the OP, to use satire to point out how ridiculous the claim’s made in the OP were.
You didn’t see it that way; I understand that and I understand your instructions. I have no intention of violating them, and had no intention of violating the rules of the board or of GD when I posted.
TriPolar did much the same thing a few posts later and was perhaps more successful in his attempt than I was in mine (since he did not receive a similar admonishment).
Anyway, I just felt the need to explain why I posted what I did, since it was obvious that, to you at least, I was less successful than I thought I was in achieving my objective.
I suppose by using the OP’s name you made the parody indistinquishable from an actual insult. Didn’t seem that awful to me, I just went with the variation where this could be said about any president. Your post hardly seems like a big deal though, just different interpretations of the same thing.
I think if we took a poll, you’d find on the whole, he was successful. You haven’t justified tom’s actions, but merely admitted your call would have been just as misguided.
I will chime in as moderator: I don’t see any difference between satiricly insulting a poster, and simply insulting the poster. That’s akin to saying, “it wasn’t really an insult, it was a joke.” And the Rule is are clear that “this applies to all insults, including jokes and quotes…”
It’s not a question of the satire succeeding or failing, just as it’s not a question of whether an insult is funny or drab.
But I wasn’t trying to insult the poster, either outright or satiricly: I was ridiculing his post. I thought I made that clear in my first post in this thread when I said:
and then again in my second post in this thread when I said:
In both my first and my second posts, I also clearly stated that at no time would I ever seek to insult a poster in any forum of this board except for The Pit.
I know my vote doesn’t count, but I would have let this slide. The post was so obviously a joke, that I don’t think it could have been construed as an actual insult. You see this a lot, even in GD. Exchanges like this:
Poster A: “Some crazy conspiracy theory…”
Poster B: Responds as to why the CP is ridiculous.
Poster C: Poster B, you must be crazy not to believe the CP. I have my tinfoil hat on right now, and you’re an idiot if you don’t have yours on, too!!!
Clearly a joke, and clearly not an insult. The rules generally allow some flexibility for moderator interpretation, and I think this would be a good time for that flexibility to be used.
No, he’s telling you what your post actually said, versus what you meant for it to say. Your intentions are irrelevant.
Be happy. I got an actual warning for something like that. I meant to be making a hypothetical, but it came off as insulting a poster’s family. Even the poster in question understood what I meant.
As Marley told me, no one can moderate you for what you meant to say.
I agree, John, tomndebb did what he thought was right. I just wanted to explain my intent. I had to start this thread tho, because the last time I tried to respond to a Mod note in the thread where it was posted, I got an official warning for it.
I always try to abide by the rules of the board. But, like most of you, I’m human and sometimes I fall short of my goal. In tom’s opinion (and some other’s), this was one of those times.