I still say he’s the fullback/running back you need, especially with the Broncos.
Their defense is better, they’ve got a quarterback who is 9/26 at best (I think). His last offensive drive was about 80 yards on him running the blessed football, it takes at least two to bring him down and let’s not forget that these first down/touchdown runs occur when he’s in shotgun (which is all the time).
Give Teebie the ball on the scrimmage line and let him go. Hey, he likes to get tackled anyway!
In the four-game Tebow era, another quarterback has quietly led a previously hopeless team to several victories. The dawning of this quarterback’s era has not received the same level of remark as Tebow’s own start.
In four games, Tebow has won three and led his team to an average of 336 offensive yards per game (and an average of 20.8 points per game).
In the same four-game stretch, QB2 has won two and led his team to an average of 292 offensive yards per game (and an average of 20.8 points per game). One of the two losses was, in fact, to Tebow, by three points in overtime.
I leave as an exercise to the reader the question of what this comparison to Matt Moore of the Miami Dolphins says about Tebow.
(By the way, I left the Broncos win Thursday night out of my figuring, simply because the Dolphins haven’t played this week and comparing a straightforward four-game stretch between the two teams was simplest. If you sub in the Broncos 17-13 win over the Jets for the Broncos 18-15 win over the Dolphins, the numbers don’t change in a meaningful way.
There are some people who are predisposed to hate the guy, sure. There are others who think he walks on water. The goalposts aren’t moving, although you can tell there are some people who are frustrated Tebow keeps getting credit for wins and clutchiness even though it appears he is playing very badly (except for two fourth quarter drives) and the defense is locking people down.
I never heard anyone say he’d go undrafted. And most people were respectful of the fact that he was very successful in college. The opinion that it wouldn’t work in the NFL was not confined to people who didn’t like him.
Many people said he shouldn’t be a high pick because of his limitations. Even people who liked him figure he would be a second or third round pick. The Broncos surprised a lot of people with that choice.
Nobody said he would never win a single game.
Same.
Fourth quarter comebacks are great, but it’s a double-edged sword: if the game is close because your offense plays poorly, the “he led a fourth-quarter comeback” thing needs to be tempered by the fact that he did not play well before that. As far as the Jets go- this year they’re 5-5 and have been very inconsistent. The evidence says pretty clearly that the Broncos are playing a softer schedule at this point in the season.
It’s beyond dispute the defense is playing better.
Do you think he’s making the defense play better? OK, the guy definitely has confidence and determination in spades and a good attitude, but it seems like he really can’t throw the ball with any kind of success, and his determination and clutchness wouldn’t help the team very much if not for the fact that the defense has gotten a bunch of key guys back lately and been one of the best units in the league lately- with a schedule of weaker teams.
As a fundamentalist protestant Christian, I don’t think that Tebow says the Rosary (a Catholic tradition). 
We need a transporter accident. Give Tebow Dan Pastorini’s arm. And Stabler’s aim. And maybe Elway’s teeth, too.
Just to elaborate on what I said in post #124, I never saw anyone say Tim Tebow couldn’t possibly win a game in the NFL. I saw lots of people say that he could not be successful in the long term because isn’t good enough and can’t pass well enough.
To this point in his career, Tebow’s record as a starter in 5-3. Not exactly worldbeating, but granted, the team is just not good. He’s completed 97 passes in 207 attempts (completion percentage of 46.9, worse this year than last), with 7 TDs and 4 INTs, 1,363 passing yards and 6.6 yards per attempt. He’s rushed for 615 yards in 99 attempts (6.2 yards/attempt) with 9 TDs and 5 fumbles. Granted he has a good attitude and leadership skills, but based on that level of performance, does this look like a guy who can be consistently successful in the NFL? The team will probably use this run-all-the-time offense for the rest of this year and I assume they will try their damnedest to get his passing up to snuff in the offseason while also looking at other options. You may not need a great QB if you have a great defense, but it’s hard to imagine how they would win consistently if they basically cannot pass at all.
Let’s keep those teeth in the can.
Tebow: He HAS been interesting to watch, I’ll give you that. But the Jets had as much to do with Denver’s Thursday night win as Tebow.
For instance, the last drive. The entire game, they played a 4-3, and at one time held Denver to 7 straight 3 and outs. The last drive, with the Broncos 95 yards away from the leading score, the Jets decided to change to a 3-4 defense. Why?
IANADC*, but it would seem to me that changing your defense for the last drive makes little sense, especially as your base defense has been so outstanding all night. The other think not to like about the change is that doing so presumes that Tebow is a quarterback that he simply isn’t… He’s not going to drive the ball down the throat of the defense, and yet he did exactly that, thanks to the Jets.
I’m not drinking the Tebow kool-aid just yet.
I will say one thing, though. The kid has put up with more BS than anyone should have to because of his religion, and his beliefs.
Can you imagine for a moment if he were for example, a muslim, or a jew? The press would never stand for it, and the offending person or player would be admonished immediately.
*I am not a defensive coordinator
One of the main things I like about him is that he doesn’t seem bothered or upset by that kind of stuff. He doesn’t get all pissy or whiny about the whole “Tebowing” crap and the jokes about him praying, which gets him some kudos in my book.
John Elway
Tim’s doing a great job leading our offense, coming through when we need him the most. He’s a winner who gets better every day.
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What are the numbers?
That’s the big question. Apparently it’s lead to more yards so far. Is it enough yards and can it be sustained? I wouldn’t bet on it.
His face after Tebow scored the game winning touchdown said “not this shit again.”
Orton:
Wk 1: 310
Wk 2: 318
Wk 3: 231
Wk 4: 384
Total: 1243
Ave: 310.75
Both Playing
Wk 5: 275
Wk 6: Bye
Tebow
Wk 7: 308
Wk 8: 312
Wk 9: 412
Wk 10: 313
Wk 11: 229
Total: 1574
Ave: 314.8
Those 4.14 yards per game are HUGE!!! If Denver returned every kickoff 96 yards, that would be a TD a game in favor of Tebow.
Does anyone have yards per drop back for Tebow? That is, throwing yards + scramble yards / drop backs.
That may a difficult one, because it may not be clear if a play is an intentional run (i.e., a quarterback draw) versus a forced scramble (on what was originally intended to be a pass play). The basic stats which the NFL publishes simply total all of his runs together, though I’m sure that there are stats services which analyze things in greater detail.
How about this for an explanation of Denver’s recent success:
In 2006, Denver (in playoff position at 7-4) benched their pro bowl QB in favour of a prototypical QB who won basically nothing in college. This resulted in the team missing the playoffs, and cratering for a few years.
In 2011, Denver (at 1-4) benched their QB in favour of a completely non-prototypical QB who won basically everything in college. This resulted in 4-1, and …
So Denver’s success is not due to Tebow specifically, but rather due to their repaying of their karmic debt from benching Jake Plummer 
Who is this pro bowl QB of which you speak? Jay “Nothing is my fault!” Cutler?
I’m no Tebow fan, but I’d take Tebow and his attitude before taking Cutler’s pouting, chinless face every day of the week.
Cutler and Jeff George are the same guy. Million dollar arm and a 5 cent head.
bwahahahahahaha!
I like Jake Plummer’s take on him… “…I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ then I think I’ll like him a little better. I don’t hate him because of that, I just would rather not have to hear that every single time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff…like you know, I understand, dude, where you’re coming from …”
Not sure what broadcast Jake’s watchin’. I never hear about it.
Unless he’s talking about the silent kneel and pray bit? That’s annoying?
Is it more annoying than the self-congratulating displays of ‘I am so AAAAWWWSSSOOOMMMEEE’ from the guy who just sacked a QB or broke up a pass? Or the rehearsed dance in end zone after a touchdown?
I don’t share Tebow’s religious views, but for some reason I appreciate his field demeanor.