I wish to live off the government dole. Tell me how

Just today I saw this bumper sticker and was wondering how to post it to the 'Dope. Thanks for the timely intro:

I have sexdaily
Damn; that’s dyslexia
Fcuk!

Ages ago I saw a cartoon where a guy is carrying a picket sign, Please help daily sex. One bystander is saying to the other, “The Dyslexia League really ought to outsource their sign work.”

Why?

My house is about that size, more if you include the finished parts of the basement. There is very little of it that doesn’t make a productive contribution to my lifestyle. Also, “single adult male” is a bit misleading when – as in the case of the OP – there is also a beautiful lovable dog sharing the premises. :slight_smile:

Well, one way the OP could cover his costs is by renting out spare bedrooms. That might be enough that he doesn’t need to go on the dole.

the other way is to be disabled and your parents have a rather large retirement /pension

My dad worked at the gm/Delco plant for 40 years after leaving the army and thanks to family connections and the UAW he has way more money than hell ever spend (his words )… Well, when he retired a few years ago social security realized hey he has a kid that he’s not supported since 1978 and we’ve been supporting since 1989 … Well there was a new law saying that if ones on SSI… they have to try to get SSA/retirement and for years I never met the requirement until he retired

Well, to make a long story short they figured out how to get 90 percent of the 1145 I get a month from SSA via my dad’s retirement And almost none of the rules that ssi has…

There actually are shades of grey here. Just because a person is able to work for a day here and there does not mean they are able to work fulltime year round. When I injured my lower back during pregnancy, I occasionally had to force myself up and down stairs to get to doctor’s appointments for the health of my child. I was also completely laid up for two days afterward each time. There was no way I could have dragged myself into the office every day.

There is a difference between what a person will do out of utter necessity and what they can maintain in the long term. Now, maybe these people are lying about their disability - is it because the roofing work is only available a few times per year? Or maybe it really is pure laziness, in which case one wonders why they ever work at all?

True, I have no big issues with a disabled person picking up a occasional PT gig. But I think what was meant was that the disability itself is faked.

I wonder why @Dinsdale ir @Dinsdale1 hasnt appeared yet in this thread. Iirc he’s a judge that decides disability claims.

I know a guy who was whining about not getting disability for a sore back. But he is able bodied, rides his bike 10-20 miles at a time, is a diy’er woodworks and keeps his house and yard looking spiffy. Frankly if he had a disability it’s hidden. I think he who would rather ride his bike and putter in his yard than work. And that’s so wrong.

You heard about the dyslexic Black Magician?
He sold his soul to Santa.

This reminds me of a conversation I had about a mentally disabled relative with an acquaintance. The acquaintance asked me if I thought my relative was faking being mentally ill to get benefits.

After think about it for moment I told him my relative was definitely not faking being mentally ill but I really couldn’t tell myself if his illness was really severe enough to prevent him from working.

I think the amount of people collecting disability benefits while completely faking being disabled is vanishing small.

In another thread it was suggested you can have lots of kids with different women, and then you take their welfare money.

If you’re down with taking money from women, pimping might be more lucrative, and doesn’t seem to involve much effort on the pimp’s part.

People assume t they know that someone is faking. They actually have absolutely know way of knowing unless that persons tells them so.

I have already made that point, but in this case he was talking about relatives.

No, having someone tell you that they are faking mental illness does not mean you know that they are faking. People with mental illness sometimes lie about it, and sometimes deny it, including telling people — I’m not really crazy, I’m just faking it for the free (locked ward) accommodation. I can get out of here any time I want.

As a group, they are people who are detached from reality.

As “a group” they are no one thing. They are individuals with the full range of realizations of reality.

I should mention that my extended family members, are part of a phenomenon fairly unique to Appalachia that is fairly well known to be out of the norm. There is a geographic concentration of counties with very high rates of citizens on disability. Many counties in Appalachia have over 20% of their residents receiving disability benefits. Meanwhile huge swathes of our country have almost entirely counties with under 4% of the population receiving disability benefits.

I do actually think genuine disability is more common in Appalachia for a number of reasons, but I also think it is very well documented that what can only be understood to be disability fraud is also more common. These aren’t people who are maybe “milking” a legitimate but minor disability more than is justified, these are people who talk about which doctors are “good” to help you get a check and which there are several very large law firms that specialize in “greasing the wheels”, who understand how to play the system and do so regularly.

This article has some good maps that show the geographic concentration of the “disability belt” Defining “Disability Belt” – Disability in Appalachia (middlebury.edu).

There was a major investigation recently that implicated a single disability lawyer who had secured $550m in lifetime improper benefits for people with the aid of a complicit administrative law judge and co-conspirator doctors, he was just one lawyer among many hundreds that operate large law firms specializing in getting disability benefits in Appalachia. Kentucky Attorney Pleads Guilty to Role in $550 Million Social Security Disability Fraud Scheme | Office of the Inspector General, SSA

Kentucky, eh? Maybe Unca Mitch should investigate that, eh?

Dammit, we have literally emancipated Sophia, so neither of us are declaring her as a dependent for 2021.

Anyway, this is a good post, but apparently losing that kid hurts.

Oh! You mean, I can use the traditional structure of American capitalism where I force the government to give me favorable market conditions from anything like “free land for my railroad” to “Thanks for creating the internet, DARPA, I’m now going to use it to destroy democracy while ‘connecting people with their friends’.”?

I mean, yeah, that’s how things work here… but that still sounds like work, which is an issue. Doesn’t seem to leave a lot of time for my couch.

Awww, this is sweet. However, should I accept, @Ion1 would likely rain down hellfire leaving me little more than a smoldering pile of ashes, so, tragically, the Fates are against it.

Hmmmm. Wonder if there is a potential cash crop which, because of regulatory changes, might explode here in Texas…

Eh, I don’t know how it works, I just know how people have told me it works. So, I’m interested in hearing from those people how this obviously works.

I know the Mayor of San Antonio personally. On it!

I am using a personal experience to ask them to back up their claims. This assertion was made a number of times in the “Nahployment” thread and echoed things told me through the years, including by my grandparents, parents, conservative politicians, anyone who ranted about ‘welfare queens’, even Bill Clinton… but they never outlined, for me at least, the actual process by which this can be done.

Some people here have explained how this can work (thank you @DocCathode, @slash2k, @Oredigger77, @Senegoid, and others) in specific situations.

I, too, have family in Appalachia, and its my grandmothers response to the grinding poverty there which ensured that no matter what, her grandchildren weren’t going to be born in West Virginia, by God. And we weren’t.


Anway, to clarify some things:

  1. Yes, I did lose my Medicare Advantage sales job.
  2. No, it’s not a big deal - I wasn’t good at it and, as posted elsewhere, I had significant moral objections to the work anyway. I wouldn’t even place this in the top-50 of stressful job situations I’ve been in.
  3. I’m not going on the dole. I’m not even getting unemployment.
  4. I have a not-small network of influencers, CEO’s, and the like to whom I can (and have) reach(ed) out to.
  5. Am getting out of sales. Want to work in non-profits or government, particularly in areas of health, infrastructure, energy, or technology policy.

Now that I’m done posting, I think I’m gonna watch Tenet. Someone told me “… it’s far more understandable if you think Tenet is to Hyperion as Inception is to Neuromancer”, so this I have to see.

Thanks for the gentle demurrer. I live to propose again same day.

Good luck with the disability thing. I have 3 of them~getting paid for them is a lot harder than some people make it out to be. Not beer and skittles by any means.