Tristan- If you take a casual glance at the Insane Clown Posse, you might realize the whole thing is a big 'ol joke. C’mon- they call themselves the Insane Clown Posse. I would never take a clown seriously, certainly not a crazy clown, and definately not a group of crazy clowns hunting down a wanted man in an old western film.
That is hard to believe. This is a group who raps about their testicles and having sex with obese women.
I didn’t know they had a new CD…what is it? And what makes you think that it even hints at god? For a group that writes a song with the ‘f’ word in it 93 times, that is a longshot.
Does this have to do with the joker cards? Isn’t there some deal that after the 7th joker card is released something big will happen? Will they unmask themselves? Mass suicide? OD’ing on faygo? We’ll have to find out I guess.
I’ve been following ICP for about 5 years, and after you hear enough of the music and read some interviews, you realize that the clowns, especially Violent J, are devout in a perverted way. On a track in one of the Bizzaro’s, they mentioned Jesus in the chorus.
I’ve been following ICP for about 5 years, and after you hear enough of the music and read some interviews, you realize that the clowns, especially Violent J, are mildly devout in a perverted way. On a track in one of the Bizzaro’s, they mentioned Jesus in the chorus, and are constanly giving ‘props’ to the creator in the album booklets.
I haven’t heard the new CD yet, but the hard-core Juggalo in my class loves it. He says it is the best stuff they have ever put out (and they been around for a while). I don’t think I’ll like it, because they really started changing their style with the 5th card (Jeckel Brothers). Before that, they were like a hilarious parody of rap. It was just two whacko’s having fun with a bizarre style. Then they got big on MTV, and well, they started changing to conventional rap, the rap I hate.
Splanky: The 6th is the last Joker’s card. There will be no more. Actually, that’s what Tristan is talking about. The great revelation or occurrence they have been prophetizing since the early 90’s (with the 1st card’s release, Carnival of Carnage) that was supposed to occur when the last card came out was merely that ICP and the Dark Carnival were inspired by god. Pretty lame, if you ask me. I was expecting it to rain Faygo.
Double post argh. I hate the Friggin Tab button. It plays sweet in Word, performs exactly like a Tab button should, but in IE, it reveals its true colors and (in cooperation with the enter key) becomes the Submitter.
Orginally posted by Tristan:
Sorry Tristan, I missed your question the first time. I guess I qualify as a Juggalo, so I’ll attempt to give you an answer. Well first I’ll ask, why would you think it is a joke? Faith doesn’t require sanity.
From the 3rd Joker’s card, released in ‘95:
From the 4th Joker’s card, released in ‘97: (and I did not make that first bit up)
From the 5th Joker’s card, released in ‘99: (I’m not making this up either)
(Bwahaha! now that’s funny).
Mind you I didn’t have to dig to deep because God was always the first one given props. ICP is crude, vulgar, violent, and maybe even talentless, but they’re certainly not heathens.
They may have their own ideologies, but the message I’ve gotten from them is: Be yourself. Violent J and Shags are both vile scumbags, and they’ll be the first to admit it (I’ll get you some links to interviews if your interested). But the thing is, they don’t care. Hell, they’re proud of who they are.
Honestly though, artists always brag about keeping it real and not selling out, but they probably couldn't compare to ICP. J dropped out of high school in 9th grade, a poor unpopular white boy, and he managed to achieve a massive underground following on the Detroit rap scene through years of hard work. Sure, they’re not broke anymore, and they’ve had some short lived but lucrative record contracts (Jive and Disney) but the cash and the deals just sort of slipped through their hands. J admitted himself: they went platinum with Jeckel Brothers, got some MTV play, wrestled in the WWF, but they didn’t get invited to any celebrity parties and the mainstream still didn’t give a damn about them.
Now, they’re pretty much banned on MTV (last I heard), they walked out on the WWF and formed their own wrestling federation, and the big money has been spent. I don’t look up to them as role models, and I don’t like them as people. I just respect them because they have fun doing what they want in life.
For the most part, the violence stuff is just for fun. A lot of it is so over the top you can’t possibly take it seriously. I don’t doubt that they are belligerent folk, however, not all believer’s are pacifists. The groups they have an abnormal hatred of are the ‘chickens’ (country people, Southerners) and the ‘richy boys’ (anyone wealthy, really).
And I guess that’s about the whole of it. They want to be insane, Faygo spraying rapper clowns who love obese women, love dissing Eminem, and love their God. And, well, they are.
I feel like I’ve stumbled across a Dungeons and Dragons thread or something with all these weird fan terms… Faygo? 7th Joker Card? Dark Carnival? God? What the fuck?
I’ve got a big wave file of the time ICP were on Howard Stern and squared off against Sharon Osbourne. They had Coal Chamber opening for them on their tour, a band managed by Osbourne, and fired them because they didn’t want them attracting the fishnet-stocking wearing androgynous freak element to their shows.
It’s one of the best things I’ve ever heard on radio. ICP kept dissing Osbourne’s band and called her husband a drug addict. Osbourne maintained that tea-and-crumpet accent of hers while nicely telling them how she was going to utterly destroy them. Stern, of course, kept poking and prodding and made things even more volatile.
That very scene is what made me sure that The Osbournes was going to be a great show.
Sharon just shredded them. Three white boys from ‘da hood’, all full of themselves, diced and punctured by an elderly housewife.
Seriously, I’m not very happy with ICP. Their ‘street cred’ has been nil since the Inner City Posse tried to play in the inner city, and wound up, if I remember the story correctly, walking home scared and alone.
Then their wrestling… It’s not good. If the site is still around, check out www.weirdworldofwrestling.com and… besides the obvious, there is one called Doppleganger, which details them being rather disrespectful to a well known and honored elder statesman of wrestling.
Basically, they’re kinda like hot air balloons with bigger egos.
Faygo is soda. It is cheap, usually sold in inner city areas, and comes in about a million flavors.
The Joker’s cards are the series of albums the group was doing. Each one is supposed to reveal something about the dark carnival, or some stupid crap like that. Believe me, the music is of such poor quality now that it isn’t even worth explaining the terminology.
I just got the new CD, and I’ll be damned if it is not the most horrible, god-awful fucking piece of crap I have ever heard. There was not one decent song on it. The lyrics are stale, blandly violent, and lacking in all humour. The chorus’s are simply atrocious, with nearly all of them being blasted by crappy ear splitting rhythm guitars. The beats also suck, with funky effects and weird sounds saturating the background. I’m simply appalled.
I loathe ICP, and this will be the last time I post anything, or think anything, about their work, as I wouldn’t be caught dead paying such filth any attention or respect.
Just as a side-note, I once saw some roadies of theirs in an airport, walking along with a bunch of equipment on various carts.
They were all wearing ICP/Psychopathic Records hockey jerseys, and had their little photo id/backstage pass things around their necks, along with psychopathic records medallions, and the best part… EACH ONE OF THEM WAS CARRYING TWO 2-LITER BOTTLES OF FAYGO! I couldn’t believe they actually hauled that stuff around with them, and for some reason the fact that they did made me happy.
Faygo & ICP. Two more reasons to be proud of Detoit, along with Kid Rock, Eminem, Andew WK (Ann Arbor actually) and a host of others offending the world. It’s a tradition that goes back to The Stooges and the MC5.
Faygo is a regional soda (pop around here), very cheap and an ICP prop. For more info on this exciting product, check out www.faygo.com