I'd like to kill my roommate, but I'm afraid just doing it once wouldn't be enough

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]
oh I see how that sounds confusing. No he just hadn’t taken any previously that night when it was suggested I may have unwittingly double dosed him.

You guys are making this seem a lot more sinister than it was. I didn’t poison anyone. He wanted to sleep and was afraid he couldn’t take anything without throwing it up so I sneaked it in and he didn’t psych himself out. Everything here tends to get completely out of hand. Giving the bf laced applesauce (with a drug he would take voluntarily) so we could both have some much needed relief is suddenly poisoning a man and deserving of prison (and you’re right they do not put red-bow adorned hipsters in the booty house) Some one gets wasted and makes an unwise decision to snag a 20 dollar bill and all of a sudden he’s a sociopath thief with a gambling addiction that can only be cured by rehab or jail time. It’s Lifetime television for women here
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And there’s the backpedal. Now we just wait for that other shoe.

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]
oYou guys are making this seem a lot more sinister than it was. I didn’t poison anyone.
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Actually, I was primarily addressing your cavalier attitude towards putting drugs and stuff in people’s food in general. Someone earlier mentioned Visine; you supported feeding someone Ex-Lax. Both could have unintended, and potentially serious, consequences. But I guess that’s ok, as long as they had it coming, huh?

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]
quack quack quack. he takes ambien all the time.
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You should never give Ambien (or similar sleep medication) to someone unawares. If he got in the car and drove off it could be very serious.

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Geez… :frowning:

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]
And Miller you didn’t even talk to me! Is it possible that you carry your grudges out of the online matrix into the real world? Because that’s just absurd.
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I didn’t talk to you at the Dopefest because two weeks later you’d talk about drugging your boyfriend against his will? You’ve got an interesting grasp of causality.

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Lobster, you have hovered at a 15yro mentality for far too long. Grow the fuck up.

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So, what do ya’ll do at Dopefests, do each other Bodily Harm with bar furniture? :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]
Oy. I’m an idiot. I managed to cite the wrong article of the UCC. I was citing article 3-403.(a). Likewise the ordinary care clause I was citing was in article 3-406, not 3-306.

My apologies for the incorrect citation. Looking over Princhster’s interpretation - I have to admit he might be right. I suffer the same problem that neutron star was alluding to: reading more than a paragraph of that does provably turn my brain into mush. (As proven by the wrong article being cited.)
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Dude, it’s fucking Federal Code. Never apologize for mis-reading Federal Code, even most Congressmen don’t really understand most of it. :smiley:

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]
You should never give Ambien (or similar sleep medication) to someone unawares. If he got in the car and drove off it could be very serious.
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It was 2 am, he was sick and we don’t own a car. But you’re right I should have considered this.

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[QUOTE=neutron star]
<snip>The situation is a little more complex than that, but, you know, don’t let that stop you from calling me a moron!
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Eh. If your OP had been “My good roommate who has never done weird shit stole my cheques and messed up my life,” my response would have been all sympathy and (hopefully) helpful advice. To me, your OP read like this; “My terrible room-mate who is a drug user and under felony charges has been doing weird and awful escalating things, and I’ve stuck around long enough for him to do something truly rotten to me, but it’s all his fault.” If you don’t see your own role in the shit sandwich you’ve gotten, you’re probably doomed to keep on making the same bad decisions with the same bad results.

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[QUOTE=Malthus]
Problem is, if he’s like me, he’d be unhappy with moving out of his place - one owned by his friend - because of some scumbag roommate.

Again speaking only for myself, I’d only move out if I thought the guy was actually a danger to my personal safety. Otherwise, I’d rather make him move out.
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Not that I don’t trust your padlock, but I don’t trust your thieving roomate. In other words, you don’t have anything in there that this bowl-skid could get his hands on & use against you do you? Something that his criminal record might keep him from getting due to a background check? Because until he’s in lock-up, nothing in that room is secure.

A very good friend was in an apartment with theiving asshat roomie in downtown New Brunswick; he thought a wooden door with a padlock worked fine too. It did…until that day he came home to find the hard-on had used a 12-lb sledge hammer to break down the door while he was at work. Yes, he broke down his bedroom door…and for what? His PC? His checkbook? No… for a dog-eared stash of porn mags. :mad: :mad: :mad:

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I think if you took all of the hijacks out of this thread, it would be less than a page long. Anyway…

[QUOTE=Malthus]
Problem is, if he’s like me, he’d be unhappy with moving out of his place - one owned by his friend - because of some scumbag roommate.

Again speaking only for myself, I’d only move out if I thought the guy was actually a danger to my personal safety. Otherwise, I’d rather make him move out.
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Yeah, this is a big part of it. By the time I moved in this summer, Dave was paying maybe half his rent and my friend was again in danger of losing the house. Still, he didn’t want to kick Dave out because he was at least paying some money, and because he just plain didn’t have the heart to, felon or not.

Dave finally got to the point where he was paying almost no rent at all and my friend had had enough.

I’m hoping they revoke his probation and that it’s not an issue. If not, I don’t know how things will play out. Thing is, neither of us is on any kind of lease or anything like that. Nobody ever signed a thing.

Well thanks, Dr. Phil.

I guess I just thought that I could handle him and that there was no other way for him to do me harm. I rarely talk to the guy. He keeps to himself and his friends and me to mine. 99% of the time, he’s not bothering me. I also didn’t want to do what would essentially amount to screwing my friend over. And I don’t have a chance in hell of getting rent this cheap anywhere else.

Nope, no firearms.

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]
It was 2 am, he was sick and we don’t own a car. But you’re right I should have considered this.
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“Hey, boyfriend, we both need some sleep. You’ve been keeping applesauce down OK, how about I mix in some Ambien with that?”

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Man this Dave guy IS a douche! Just talking about him makes half the people here go batshit insane! I can only imagine having to LIVE with this guy, yeesh…

And I agree with Polymer (the guest who came here for this thread and is already disgusted by us) that you gotta make sure your friend follows through with a solid eviction of this guy so you can make sure he has no right to come back once he’s released and you have a place to stay.

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[QUOTE=neutron star]
I think if you took all of the hijacks out of this thread, it would be less than a page long. Anyway…

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Probably. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=neutron star]

Nope, no firearms.
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I’d worry about a steak knife or a baseball bat. Maybe he figures he can get away with the checks because he is going to come into your room with the above sledge hammer and whack your ass. Take care.

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Oh, let’s not get all fucking hysterical here. I see this lobstermobster backlash mob forming, and it’s just silly, and exactly what we should be trying to avoid. Interesting new people are so damn rare around here, why not chase one off, eh? Lame. Let’s not get all self-righteous on the n00b, OK?

I’m not endorsing poisoning here, or giving someone drugs without their consent. I would never do either. Also, sharing prescriptions = double plus ungood. Let me just state that clearly for the record. But…

[QUOTE=lobstermobster]
oh I see how that sounds confusing. No he just hadn’t taken any previously that night when it was suggested I may have unwittingly double dosed him.
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I have a scrip for Ambien, and I’d never share it or take more than one per night because the pharmacy doles that shit out like deBeers doles out diamonds, and if you run out before 30 days have passed, you are SOL. However, and I heard this from my doctor, I do know for a fact that you can easily take more than one, or double your dose, if you need to, without risk of ODing and dying.

IANA pharmacist, but I am an experienced Ambien user for a long fucking time, so relax. Fact is, lobstermobster was not going to kill her boyfriend with 2 Ambien, even if they were 10mg pills. The only risk would have been him driving, which lemme tell you, if you aren’t used to taking Ambien, and you take 2… you aren’t walking, much less driving, anywhere. Two hits-- it hitting you, you hitting the closest horizontal surface. Just to put this in perspective.

I would have told him I was mixing it with applesauce, myself. Why? Because if you don’t know that you are suddenly going to go into an amnesiac state, then go unconscious, it can be quite disconcerting. Hell, it’s disconcerting even if you know it’s coming. And that’s not cool. But death? Unlikely. Very unlikely.

All I can do is laugh and laugh at this comment.

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[QUOTE=neutron star]

Since I’ve had a couple nights of sleep now since it happened, I’m no longer preoccupied with revenge fantasies, although I do have a very strange urge to walk up to him, slam a shoe on the table, shout “I WILL BURY YOU!” and walk away, but I know he won’t get the reference.

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Apparently no one else got the reference. To be fair, though, it was after Phil Hartman died.

Just don’t forget that Dave may employ Beth’s equally effective “crying like a little girl” technique. It did wonders for selling Mushmouth hats.

-AdmiralCrunch, *Unofficial Newsradio Geek *

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[QUOTE=AdmiralCrunch]
Apparently no one else got the reference. To be fair, though, it was after Phil Hartman died.
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Hmm…I was thinking Nikita Khrushchev at the UN.

I stopped watching News Radio after Hartman died though.

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[QUOTE=Malodorous]
Hmm…I was thinking Nikita Khrushchev at the UN.

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Yeah, that’s what I was going for, though I was a big fan of NewsRadio, and even (gasp) enjoyed the Jon Lovitz episodes from the fifth season.

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]
I have a scrip for Ambien, and I’d never share it or take more than one per night because the pharmacy doles that shit out like deBeers doles out diamonds, and if you run out before 30 days have passed, you are SOL. However, and I heard this from my doctor, I do know for a fact that you can easily take more than one, or double your dose, if you need to, without risk of ODing and dying.

IANA pharmacist, but I am an experienced Ambien user for a long fucking time, so relax. Fact is, lobstermobster was not going to kill her boyfriend with 2 Ambien, even if they were 10mg pills. The only risk would have been him driving, which lemme tell you, if you aren’t used to taking Ambien, and you take 2… you aren’t walking, much less driving, anywhere. Two hits-- it hitting you, you hitting the closest horizontal surface. Just to put this in perspective.

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of course, we were mainly pointing out that dosing some one w/o their knowledge & permission was A. dangerous (not necessarily fatal), and B. illegal.

your doc gave you advice about how it affects you under normal circumstances, not how it affecs another, ill person.