Does this make me racist? What would you do if you would have to choose one of the above?
Obviously I am very prejudiced when it comes to Romans, I would love to hear some arguments on how to deal/relate to that group of people. Right now I have them in the “nothing but trouble” box.
cheers
Romans are people from Rome.
Yes.
Romanes eunt domus!
Since neither “Jewish” nor “Roma” is a race, your statement is not racist. It is, however, bigoted.
I loan money to people I deem trustworthy for reasons particular to that person. Preconceptions about their religion or culture do not enter into it. Do you go around loaning money to strangers?? What a strange thing to do, assuming you are not a bank.
Oh, and to answer your question… I don’t lend money to people; but if I did, I’d lend to someone I know personally.
I don’t think ethnicity based random lending to passers by is all that common… certainly not common enough for people to actually spend time thinking about it… other than as a justification of their racism.
It definitely makes you sound bigoted. What on earth would make one group inherently more trustworthy than the other? Why would their religion or ethnicity even be a factor?
I’m not a roman mum, I’m a kike, a yid, a heebie, a hook-nose, I’m kosher mum, I’m a Red Sea pedestrian, and proud of it!
What if they wanted you to lend them your ears?
Regards,
Shodan
Id much rather lend money to a Jew than a Gypsy
Superego will give money to anyone - otherwise he feels guilty.
Regards,
Shodan
I’m not going to say a thing about the Jews or the Romas. However, here is how it could go, in some people’s heads:
There are certain cultures and religions in the world that say, “Don’t cheat your own, but everyone else is OK”. No, I refuse to name any. Say you came across one of these religions/cultures. Say the Pastafarians believe as one of their core tenets that only the Pastafarians are true humans and everyone else is…mutant killer zombies from outer space, so it’s perfectly fine to cheat them.
Of course you, as one of said mutant killer zombies, would naturally trust them less. Now. Even if Pastafarians rejected that portion of their culture/religion you might still be wary of them.
Hyperbole added for fun, but you get my drift. And on that note, I definitely wouldn’t lend money to a Scientologist…but I might still lend money to a friend that happened to be a Scientologist, if they were a good enough friend.
guess I am a bigot then,
This is ment more as a thought experiment. Let say you have to make a hypothetical choice. Either you lend 100 dollars to 100 randomly selected jews or you lend it to random gypsies. You ask them to come back with the bill the next day. They have to give it back but get to keep 50 as a reward
Of course you could also do this as a field experiment.
What side would get the most money returned?
I think I know the answer, these specific groups you could of course change to any cultural/ethnic/labour/ etc etc
Then my next point is, would this prove anything if there is a big difference in money returned? could such an experiment be done? Does it have any value?
This would be a very crude tool to falsify stereotypes. Or might show that you can discern patterns in behavior when you put a collective against another.
$50 says you’d get more of a return from the two groups you are singling (doubling?) out than you would from 100 randomly selected Fortune 500 executives or politicians.
The thread title sounds like something that could have been a popular song around 1910.
For some reason you are interested in identifying alleged traits of oppressed minorities that, contrary to your bigoted belief, are not at all “collective” in thought or action but actually come from a huge variety different socio-cultural-national-economic backgrounds.
What’s it to you?
I’m assuming when he thinks “Jew” or “Gypsy” he thinks of individuals who have chosen particular lifestyles and come from particular cultures. Undoubtedly he’d rather lend money to a Roma businessman with a permanent place of residence over a Jew who lived in a caravan park.
Yes, you certain sound like you are.
Also, not how it works. To obtain any useful data you need to eliminate extraneous variables… whereas your method… well, would just conform your prejudices. Btw, it’d also give the same results with black people instead of Rom, just in case you’re bigoted against them too… also probably works for illegal aliens if you have a point to prove about them.
He has not shared what “particular culture and lifestyle” he attaches to the term “Jew” or “Gypsy” [sic]. Personally, I’m not really sure what commonalities in “culture and lifestyle” there are, between say, an 80 year old Polish peasant holocaust survivor living on a kibbutz in Israel, and a 24 year old Italian university student studying film history in Paris.
Sure they both celebrate Passover (although they don’t agree on the rules for the observation of Passover), but that doesn’t explain why the OP thinks they have something in common in regards to money. I mean, other than his bigotry.
It’s the worst thought experiment ever. “Is it racist if I’d rather give money to a black guy than a white guy?” Yeah, you’re a bigot. Have fun with that.
This OP sounds like it came out of a time capsule. “Who would thee rather do Business with, a Negroe or a Heathen Chinee?”
Here’s a tip: when the only identifying characteristic you supply about someone when asking a question of character is their race or religion, it’s pretty tough not to sound bigoted.