Who said anything about murder? I was just going to put it in a gift basket for them.
Perhaps I should’ve added a smiley to that…
Don’t worry–I snickered. And I’m not offended, since after a few years, the patchouli builds up a layer even better than thick skin.
At the same time, while I’m far too geeky to be a real hippy (I play Dungeons and Dragons, ferchrissake), I’ve never really understood the hatred folks have for hippies, or the vitriol. It seems to me like hating Quakers or something: puzzling.
Daniel
“…shovels and rakes and implements of destruction…”
I think it has something to do with the aura of smug superiority, coupled with a certain degree of inate ignorance some of them broadcast as do some of the Christians who get in trouble here. It’s sort of like they’re thinking or saying “Oh, you poor, misguided, doomed creature!” as I sink my teeth into a delicious ham sandwich or waxing on about how all natural things are good as I polish off a mystery novel. Frankly, If I think someone’s sneering at me whether it’s because of my diet or my form of worship, I’m not going to think well of them.
By the way, catsix, beautiful response to the vegetarian. Normally, I’m against rudeness, but, if one is being harangued, there’s a lot to be said for a good riposte!
CJ
Ever since reading the OP I’ve had Junk Food Junkie running through my head. Damn you!
<shakes fist at OP>
Lots of people wash their hair only once a week – especially those who have it done in a salon.
When I was growing up, a vinegar rinse was standard for brunettes to make the hair shine. It was lemon juice for blonds. You did rinse it out and did’t let it dry in your hair! We also used mayo. We didn’t have regular “conditioners” easily available to us back in the Dark Ages.
God fucking damn it!
It’s hippie!
HIPPIE!
– Uke, cranky aging hippie editor
Washing your hair only once a week?! :eek:
I have incredible amounts of hair, I’ve seen only maybe 2 or 3 other people that had hair comparable to mine. I wash my hair every single day using only the cheapest shampoo and conditioner and I get nothing but compliments on it. But maybe my hair just really likes me.
As for the OP, I currently live in California and I have yet to encouter anyone saying anything like that. I look like a hippie and hang out with a lot of liberals, and even the real hippies (by ‘real’ I mean, live basically on the beach where they smoke weed, dance and play music all day and alll night) I’ve met have been meat-eaters.
Then again, California is a huge state and there may be more crazies in your areas.
<Takes The Cid’s personal inventory>
Vegetarian unless he kills it.
Farms a good portion of his food.
Keeps bees.
Uses Tom’s of Maine products.
Showers briefly, when necessary.
Wears Patchouli?!
Sweet fancy fragrant Nag Champa, I must be a Hippie!
:dubious:
am I the only one who accidently read that as “pasturized poultry”?
-lv
Do you get charged twice as much at the salon? Because I’ve got more hair than anyone I’ve ever met, and I do. Oh, and are you curly or straight? [Hee.]
Washing mine more than once [twice, at the most] a week turns it into a wrathful demon that cannot be tamed. Once a week does very well for me.
Oh, and to the poster who said hair gets greasy after a week – maybe if you’ve got thinner or silkier hair. Mine doesn’t look greasy or smell bad. There’s a lot [lots and lots] who don’t wash their hair more than once a week.
Let me be the 4th or so person to say that I’ve lived in California my entire life and have NEVER encountered anyone with an attitude like the one you describe.
Furthermore, I have a family of cousins who are absolutely positively hippies (they produce and perform in environmentally-themed musical theatre, have children named “Sierra Wildrose” and “Joyful Raven” and met in a commune during the summer of love), and they are meat eaters who, while passionate in their beliefs about, say, global warming and the evils of Bush, are not the slightest bit condescending or snotty about it. In fact, they’re some of the hardest working, most decent, friendly, generous, sweet people I know.
So I give the OP’s rant two big thumbs down. And, like Left Hand of Dorkness, I’m going to remember this thread the next time someone starts talking about how it’s the liberals who have a dismissive and stereotyping attitude towards their political opponents.
Heh. More fer me… 
I don’t know where you took Chemistry, but in all my schooling cyanide is organic , you know, containing a carbon atom as well as it’s buddy a nitrogen. I have a jar of potassium cyanide sitting in the next lab over and there’s some NaCN around here somewhere…
God how I hate that ‘organic’ phrase. No one does inorganic farming, unless you’re talking about Mortons. Keep using ‘organic’ and I’ll keep mocking you, dirty hippy!
Well, you certainly can’t get any less hippie than where I’m at. It’s actually one of the attractions. I’ve got a sealskin parka!
Christ, all the people had to eat up here for a LOOOONG time was meat!
Holy crap. That’s the last time I let my thread sit unattended overnight. It exploded!
OleOneEye: IIRC diabetics were injecting the cow insuline, not eating it. Therefore, the insuline was not digested. Again, IIRC, insuline is a fairly simple hormone and may be very similar in structure between cows and humans. Growth hormone is complicated. If anyone knows for sure, please correct me.
manhattan: I couldn’t resist the quote. If I found a hippie who quoted Darth Vader, they would be instantly redeemed in my eyes, too.
that_darn_cat: reality shows-the pinnacle of development
Zoe, Kyla: I’m in Davis. I think that pins it down. Maybe I’m giving the crazies more notice because I’m involved with the ag industry. It seems like there’s just people everywhere here insisting that farming be done in such a way that only the high middle class will be able to afford food.
IIRC, animal rights issues have made it so unprofitable to raise chickens in Europe that many chickens are imported from Asia, where standards aren’t as stringent. Then Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza happened.
Like I said, though, this is just my personal experience.
Scribble: You’re right, I’m mostly upset with people who hold arguments but don’t have a strong base for doing so, or who don’t research their opinions before they go preaching to others. I know the entire orgainic farming community doesn’t do this and I’m probably running into a cluster of nut jobs. But they still irritated the hell out of me. I’m all for finding balance and looking at alternatives, but only if the alternatives actually do something. I can’t stand people who prefer the alternative just because it’s an alternative. I hope that’s makes sense.
Mack: Farming: What Gorsnak said. Also, I screwed up my numbers, sorry. But the idea still holds. The ability for large segments of the population to be supported without themselves having to farm is a recent development helped by improved agricultural methods. This is something that was less so before modern agriculture. This should not be forgotten. Diet: omnivorism is the way that has worked. Culture: Everytime someone talks to me about the plight of X ethnic group they are trying to make me feel guilty by association. Maybe this is not your experience, but that’s what’s happened to me. If you want to talk more, email me.
Duffer: circulatory system to corn? My mind reels at the idea of a veiny cucumber, you naughty person :o
jjimm: thanks for the clarification. That does indeed seem to be what’s happening. Again, seems to be a symptom of the blind leading the blind. Only I’m tired of being blind.
Louis B, Really Not All That Bright, Case Sensitive, catsix, jlzania, featherlou, Seige: You rock.
dre2xl: I had heard about early starts in puberty, but not that early. Got a source? I’m curious, not ment as challenge. It might be body weight like **catsix **mentioned. And like I said before, I’m all in favor of doing the best of both worlds. Just can’t stand the people **catsix **has also met
Sorry, El Cid Viscoso, you are indeed a hippie. Just don’t be an idiot hippie. Once again, I’m not trying to insult people who find different way to do things that work, I just can’t take the dismissive, uneducated, pompous attitude some of them have.
Okay, I promise to keep up now and have shorter posts. And all y’all with the unwashed hair are creeping me out.
To further add to the hijack here, I have VERY thick curly/wavy hair as well. I wash mine about every 3 days with a conditioner rinse on the days I don’t shampoo. I also have very sensitive skin, so anything with a lot of perfumes (herbal ess.) I can’t use, I’ll be miserable for weeks. So I found one that works well for me and I’ve stuck with it. My hair is far better manageable this way. It’s not like you don’t get it wet (which some people won’t do that either, they use talcum on their roots to soak up oil and blowdry out), you just don’t have to shampoo. Too many chemicals on my beautiful locks. 
As to the OP, I hate preachy people regardless of what group they belong to. I consider myself a modern-day hippie. I’m not vegan or even vegetarian, I don’t own a bunch of “natural” things, I am a hippie in my heart. I like the human rights activist part and the animal rights, amongst other things . . .
Try not to paint with such a broad brush here, there are plenty of good people who aren’t as extreme.
http://www.drmcdougall.com/newsletter/nov_dec97.html
The relevant tidbit:
*At age 3 years, 3% of African-American and 1% of white girls showed breast and/or pubic hair development, with proportions increasing to 27.2% and 6.7%, respectively, at 7 years of age. *
It could be that we’re eating too much food, period, but plenty of skinny kids are developing earlier too. It’s also interesting to note that a lot of hair products targeted to African Americans contain plenty of estrogen.
After wandering through a lot of shady scare articles, dre2xl gets up and pours the milk down her drain… she’s lactose intolerant anyway…
Thanks for the link, dre2xl, but this bit ruins the credibility of these authors for me:
It implies that
- kids are being beat up for going into puberty. Possible, but common?
- the only cause for classroom disturbance is hormones.
I can’t find the article they site, but I’m interested to know exactly what it said. These guys could be misconstruing.
Besides, grades 4 and 5 are when my school did sex ed. Didn’t make us riot or stop us from being average 9 and 10 year olds. IIRC from the gym shower, that’s about the time some of the girls were entering puberty. Not that I was examining them closely. (PS, I’m female)
digging around on PubMed, a HUGE database of scientific journals, it seems to me that a large portion of early puberty cases are related to some other organic problem, like hypothyroidism. Obviously, doing a little searching doesn’t equal a literature review. I’m hoping one of the medically minded dopers will weigh in. But maybe I should move that to GQ.
to resume: rant rant, idiot hippies rant.