Idiot Hippies

The BBQ Pit
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PubMed, then…

A recent study conducted by the Pediatric Research in Office Settings network provided evidence that girls in the United States, especially black girls, are starting puberty at a younger age than earlier studies had found, but the reasons for this are not known

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Factors other than obesity, however, perhaps genetic and/or environmental ones, are needed to explain the higher prevalence of early puberty in black versus white girls.

So, girls are indeed entering puberty earlier, and this early puberty isn’t entirely attributable to weight…

I’m no hippie, but it seems quite reasonable to me that you absorb what you eat… including growth hormones. Yes, it’s cow growth hormones, but as others have pointed out, humans can utilize cow insulin at the very least. :slight_smile:

The Frankenfood stuff, however, is total bull as anyone who has watched that Penn and Teller BullShit! episode knows. What difference does the DNA present within food make, if the food is otherwise chemically harmless?

In any case, once you go organic or small farm meat, you’ll have a hard time going back. It’s like going back to McDonald’s after eating a nice restaurant steak burger. I just wish my local grocery store didn’t equivalate organic to vegan–there’s no meat in the hippie section. :frowning:

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Very interesting. Thanks, dre2xl.

I think I’ve worked through my annoyance now. thanks to everyone who read my very first pit thread!

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Dictionary.com says:

3 entries found for hippie.
3 entries found for hippy.

hip·pie also* hip·py* n. pl. hip·pies

A person who opposes and rejects many of the conventional standards and customs of society, especially one who advocates extreme liberalism in sociopolitical attitudes and lifestyles.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
hip·py n.

Variant of hippie.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
hippy

n : someone who rejects the established culture; advocates extreme liberalism in politics and lifestyle [syn: hippie, hipster, flower child]

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

:stuck_out_tongue:

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Just a little nitpick on the vegetarian thing: I’m a vegetarian. Stopped eating meat when I’d just turned 13, survived the ‘most important growth etc’ years just fine.

Also, I’m vegetarian for sort of two-fold health reasons: Mostly, because of some various health issues I’d developed while still eating meat, and also because it makes me a lot less likely to eat fast food. IMO, that fast-food aspect in and of itself makes vegetarianism incredibly healthy.

Granted, this is coming from the person who, today, had a package of ramen for lunch, and just ate a pack of Pop-Tarts for dinner, and I see nothing wrong with that.

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Oh, absolutely there’s a niche market for meat raised in ways other than least cost per pound fashion. I’m not opposed to that at all. But it is, as you note yourself, more expensive, and the fact of the matter is that most consumers aren’t willing to pay a premium for free range chicken. A few small operators can do very nicely abstaining from the mass intensive livestock model. But only a few, and they have to stay small. That’s the simple forces of economics at work, and it ain’t gonna change anytime soon.

For the record, the family farm (brother slowly taking over from Dad) has never been run on the mass production model, and is now moving into bison production, which is decidedly opposed to that model. But I’m well able to recognize that not everyone can operate that way.

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Nope, I love Asheville. In fact I will try my best to move near there when I get out of college. The fact remains that Asheville is full of hippies. Not necessarily a bad thing unless you are the OP.

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Only a damn hippy would spell “hippy” that way.

Slortar sadly shakes his head as he pencils Ukelele Ike in at the bottom of his “damn hippy” list

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I don’t go to salons. In fact, that’s why I have this much hair. For a while I was too poor to afford a haircut so I just cut it myself, and since there is so much of it and I am so bad at cutting a straight line, I just stopped doing anything but my bangs. Then a guy who owned his own salon walked into my work and went spastic over my hair and was more than willing to cut it for free.

Thankfully, I have wavy hair. If I had curly hair, I would have to cut it because it would just be too impossible to work with. It gets a lot curlier when it is shoulder length, but now it is too heavy to be curly at all.

People are always amazed that I can take 15 minute showers. I just brush my hair out before hand, put the shampoo on my scalp only and run my fingers through my mane. Of course, it can’t get over all the strands which may be why the mane looks better than the scalp part.

I would try the washing it once a week route, except that I have no idea where I’d stick it when I took a shower/bath. It’s too heavy to stick up in a bun without tons of effort and scrunchies/bobby pins/hairties/etc.

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I always thought hippys were supposed to be laid back and easygoing.Relax hippys, take a breath. Embrace your hippyness. :smiley:

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Well there ya go then. California? Strange folkses there. :slight_smile:

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Yeah, those idiot hippies.

Tree huggers, you know. Let me clue you in, spud. When that last tree goes, you’re going with it.

Dumb fucks. Trying to tell you that a good doob of home-grow is better than several stiff shots of Johnnie Walker Red. Chivas Regal, Thunderbird, Mad Dog 20/20, no matter what the Playboy Advisor says, its all the same shit. Spend a weekend in an emergency room sometime, count the number of patients treated for marijuana overdose, compared to the dumb shmucks who wrapped thier oversized car around a stubborn tree because they drove home from the bar just one time too often.

Tried to tell you that a craving for money is a piss-poor foundation for a society. So who rips off your granny’s Medicare money? Who makes up cartoon characters to sell your kids poison that they know will kill them? Who builds a car with a fatal flaw and consults the spreadsheets to figure out if it makes better sense to fix it or to pay the lawyers to defend against wrongful death? Love Canal? Bhopal? Enron? Idiot hippies or white guys in suits?

Tried to tell you that finding a way to get along was, in the long run, a better plan than sending your best and brightest to kill or be killed, that all your guns and tanks won’t protect you from a Big Idea. Oooops, you did it again! Which hippies in the Pentagon do you blame?

Work less, live better, we said. But you were too smart for that, you knew that a headlong pursuit of loud, shiny crap was the Meaning of Life. You knew that when you lay on your last bed, and reflected on a life spent in The Office, worrying about The Office, and taking pills and drinking trying to forget The Office…ah, now there is a life worth having, with any luck, you can send you kids to a school where they can learn to do exactly the same thing. Unless something goes wrong, and The Office fucks you and forgets you. Because The Office does not love you.

Yeah. Idiot hippies. Lucky you guys are so much smarter.

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Ewan McGregor gave a much better soliloquy in Trainspotting. (Well, I guess Irvine Welsh wrote it better) Either way.

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I have to disagree. If Cid’s out there killing stuff, he’s not allowed to be a hippie. It’s somewhere in the by-laws, I think.

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Yikes! There’s a Co-Op on campus, ripe grounds for breeding hippies. Of course, they don’t seem to comply with the city’s no-smoking laws very often…

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It is possible to have the necessary percentage of body fat to begin puberty without being obese.

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Ha-Ha! Better move to Boulder, El Cid.

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That sentence shows you to be an uncivilized barbarian; Chivas Regal is smooth and mellow. And if you cannot appreciate the taste of a good Shiraz or a Pinot Noir, I feel sorry for you. Marijuana gets you high, but it has no taste and it makes you cough and spit up phlegm. Plus sharing joints is downroight unsanitary.

Apples and oranges. There’s no such thing as marijuana overdose, but you know that. And I daresay that people get ripped to the tits and crash cars on all kinds of substances.

Tell that to Ben and Jerry or Phish.

The junkies downstairs.

R. Crumb.

And who launches the class action lawsuits to remedy those sins? Guys in suits. Hippies don’t go to law school 'cos they’re too busy selling falafel in concet venue parking lots.

Again, peace work is doen by edcated liberals in suits, not by hippie burnouts.

Neither do food stamps, the hippie’s currency of choice.

Sorry, dude, but the real work of the 60s was done by folks like Ralph Nader, Ralph Abernathy, Mark Rudd, Cesar Chavez, and not a hippie among them. The civil rights and anti-war activism of the 1960s largely carried out by black clergymen and white middle class college students. All the hippies did was to beg for spare change and smoke dope in the Haight.

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Well, that depends, Gobear, on whether you’re talking about the original phenomenon, a la Haight Ashbury (I was there. Were you?) or the larger context of a counter-cultural movement. The actual hippies or the people who were accused of being hippies. Amongst my ilk (got ilk?) the term “hippie” was a mild derogatory, acceptable amongst one’s own, people engaged in such lazy, unproductive pursuits like starting food co-ops. You get stoned after you unload a truckload of organic groats.

I would have thought that you might have been a bit more sensitive about slinging around the stereotypical slurs. Wrong again, huh?

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I realize that I have a big stake in the concept of the small sustainable family farm but I think it’s a model that we must adopt in the future for two primary reasons.

Putting totally aside the ethical reasons for not eating an animal that has been raised in torturous conditions, mass factory farming has a devastating impact on the environment.
Think the manure ‘lagoons’ of the Carolina’s,the impact of feed lots, and the ground water contamination in Rhode Island.

The other issue, for me, is the quality of the food that’s found in your local supermarket.
Beef and poultry raised in factory farms lack vital nutrients.
You just don’t get the Omega-3’s and vitamins that you need to remain healthy.
And there’s something nasty about eating a chicken that sat in a chlorine bath for 4 hours after processing.
We call in washing the bird in a fecal soup.
Eggs are extremely porous and the pristine white eggs that you buy in the store have also been bleached.
Call me crazy but I just can’t believe that including chlorine in your daily diet is a good thing.

I don’t think that it’s just a coincidence that health care is now the biggest industry in America today.
Put plainly, we’re were buying for .99 a lb isn’t good for you and can’t sustain a healthy body.

I’m amused when I get the argument that pastured raised poultry and eggs are just too expensive.
We all make choices as to what we want to spend our money on and I’ve found that, quite often, the same people that won’t spend $2.00 a dozen for eggs are perfectly willing to buy soda pop and eat fast food 5 times a week.

Good on your brother, Gorsnak.
Tell him to see about getting a listing on eatwild.com
It’s a great free resource for spreading the word.
He might also want to check out raising grass fed beef too.
There’s a growing market for that as well.

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My parents belong to a co-op which uses this model. They get the best damned eggs I’d ever had. Since we’d stayed with them over Thanksgiving, Fang won’t eat eggs, I guess they’re not as good as the ones at Grandma and Granddaddy’s.

The Thanksgiving turkey was pastured (I keep reading that as Pasturized). It took two people to break its wings so it would fit in the fry pot, and my father an additional ten minutes to carve. The white meat was dark, and the dark was nearly black. The appearance was a little off-putting, but, boy, was it good.

That being said, I agree with Cartman: