Jebus X. Cripes, are you a douchebag. “Most Steelers fans” are working class people sitting in front of the TV scarfing junkfood and cheering for their team. Don’t know why this particular issue lights the fuse on your tampon, but then again, I don’t really care either. (This coming from somebody who doesn’t follow football.)
So the “lesson” the teacher was trying to convey was, 'If you are discriminated against you should just suck it up, shut your mouth and forget about it." Got it.
I am not a typical Steeler fan. Don’t judge Steeler fans based on my comments here. As you can see, there are plenty of them in this thread who strongly disagree with me. It’s not like I think all Bronco fans are whiny babies because of the actions of our hero, Josh.
Raping him would a felony, pelting him with paper is a misdemeanor at worst.
Age of consent aside, sexual harassment (and going further, rape) is not the issue in this thread. Much more serious consequences than throwing paper at a student. Sexual harassment isn’t against the law? I thought it was…
A lesson in discrimination by singling him out because he was different and throwing paper at him.
He wasn’t discriminated against to the point where he wasn’t allowed into the building, had to use a different rest room, couldn’t get a job, was denied housing, had to ride the back of the bus, etc. because he was outwardly different. He was used as an example of what basic discrimination is within the confines of a high school ethnicity class.
Are you getting dizzy from all your spinning?
You know, I might have more sympathy with the “lesson” angle if there was a discussion afterwards.
No, he just had to sit on the floor instead of a chair.
The idea that this was a lesson to teach to the students, might be true, if, during the same class, the teacher stopped and asked the students why they were throwing paper at their fellow student. To explain how a follow the leader mentality can make a person do something against their own moral code.
Saying that he would have done this the next day is pure speculation on your part and a even if the teacher did this the next day, it’s a lousy way to teach kids.
It is fairly obvious that the kid’s dad called the Denver media because they didn’t think the local media might be fair about it.
The fact that former students like the teacher means nothing. Bullies are frequently the most popular person in the school.
Just wanted to say that the last time I was hit by a teacher was in 12th grade from a math teacher with an undiagnosed rage disorder. He hit maybe 10% of teh students who attended while he was teaching, and about 80% of the students who aggravated him in any way. Last year, I happened to drive by the old school. Someone had bought the naming rights to the front circle, as happens every year, and named it after their favorite teacher. Guess who it was.
A good friend of mine once said, “Catholic School either makes you a real hard-ass, or a real bitch.” Talk to any one of the latter, and listen to them wax nostalgic about the broken nose they got from a drunken priest.
Who said there wasn’t one on Monday? I haven’t seen anything about what’s happened since this happened. Has Josh been to class this week and allowed to take a re-test? Has the teacher been suspended or disciplined? Has the investigation resulted in anything?
And the Denver media was going to be? Why not call NYC media, for example? Or Philadelphia?
So you don’t even have the law to fall back on. You’re still going to continue to dodge the question about how far your ‘logic’ extends, aintcha?
No, the actions of the teacher were, and, now, the absurdity of your ‘reasoning’ is.
Why is commiting one misdemeanor fine but a civil matter is not? Will you address the inconsistencies in your point, at all, or just continue to prevaricate?
And yet, your own words contradict what the school has said. Are they lying, or are you?
Once is a mistake.
Twice is stupidity.
Three times is enemy action.
Will you please stop being dishonest?
Not a lesson. A joke.
Can you please stop pretending that it might have been a lesson?
He probably didn’t think they would be interested in the story of overboard fandom in a classroom.
Like when he said, “I didn’t think there would be this much interest.” to the national news attention.
This happened on Monday, after the Steelers beat Denver. The kid wore his John Elway shirt, to show that he is not a fair weather fan.
If the Steelers win the Superbowl and then someone wears a SeaHawks jersey, what will happen then?
Here’s my logic. I have a son. When he gets to high school, and the teacher throws paper at him, I don’t think I’ll really have a problem with it, whether as a joke or as part of a lesson. If the teacher ridicules him in class for doing something stupid, I don’t think I’ll have too much of a problem with that, either. If he lays a hand on him, I have an issue. A big one. Somewhere in the middle there is where I draw the line. I can’t give a concrete example, because it’s not happened. But I have a feeling that my son, at 17, is going to be pretty well adjusted well before then and not go crying because someone looked at him sideways. Honest.
This whole entire thread, I thought it happened Friday, before the game.
And what was the stupid thing he did, exactly? What foolishness on his part made him entitled to be ridiculed, not only by the teacher, but by the other pupils, during an exam?
That’s the most depressing thing I’ve heard all day.
I don’t mean to muddy the waters, and if I’m unfairly playing the gender card, then say so, but…
For those of you who think the kid is just a wus, and should suck it up, would you say the same if the student were female? I really dislike when males are told to suck it up, but in the same situation, it would be socially acceptable for a female to get emotionally worked up. It reeks of bullshit. If someone is being a jerk to you, then they are being a jerk; why should it matter what gender you are? But if you would honestly judge a female student the same, then all right then. (I know this sounds all ‘white man’s burden’ but I really feel this way…)
However, It hurts to be ostracised. Maybe ostracization was part of the culture of that classrom that the student really should’ve expected the possibility. I kind of doubt it, but none of us know. Can you at least agree the teacher was being a jerk (not ‘asshole’, just ‘jerk’)?
For the record, I’m a male who (I hope) never really bought into the whole ‘macho’ thing.
Maybe better put the brakes on a bit. You have a sarcastic sense of humor that occasionally delights, but this line could legitimately be construed as insult towards the child.
I know I’m not Miller, but, erunh?
It could be interpreted as the child himself, for one reason or another, is depressing.
Ah… I guess that I just figured that even if Miller was saying that having kids was depressing, it wasn’t a big deal.
For the record I hadn’t even considered it as anything other than a joke about the parenting skills of our dear apologist.
Ah well, carry on.
Nah, he’s cool with it. My son, overall, likes that I’m his father, no matter how others on a message board may feel about it. FTR, my wife completely disagrees with me on my position in this thread, too.