IE8 beta -- happy dance

Downloaded the beta version of IE8 this morning.

Passes Acid Test 2 , renders CSS Zen Garden pages correctly (with the caveat that some of the png transparency may not be perfect, such as the vaunted diver’s torch in the Ocean theme), renders Myer’s complexspiral demo correctly… leaps tall CSS suites in a single bound… :cool:

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

Course, it doesn’t work on our new web-app UI… but that appears to be the fault of nasty hacks put in to deal with issues in IE7 and IE6. Hopefully all will be well once these are removed… now, if only we can prise our customers off IE6 and drag them kicking and screaming into the century of the fruitbat, I might actually complete this project with some hair not yet grey. :smiley:

Doh! Could some nice mod move this to MPSIMS please? :slight_smile:

reported.

And moved from IMHO to MPSIMS.

So IE finally conforms to standards. Only ten years too late.

Standards compliance? Excellent!

Availability for OS X? Ummm…

People still use IE? That’s more remarkable than anything. :smiley:

I still use Internet Explorer. I like it. It’s got Stumble Upon, so I’m good.

You browser snob. You’re worse than console snobs, but not as bad as operating system know-it-alls. A vast percentage of the globe uses Internet Explorer!

A testament to the stoicism achievable by mere humans.

Sad but true. In the particular stodgy corporate IT world for which I write software IE is not only used, it is the be-all and end-all of browsers. :frowning:

Many of the clients have elderly apps that were designed with and for IE6 and only work on that idiosyncratic platform, making the “dragging kicking and screaming” forward to the bright new world of standards compliance rather more kick-y and scream-y than I would like.

At the same time I have a marketing department who want all of the fancy goodness of a modern GUI (drag-n-drop, asynchronous validation, bell, whistle, etcetera) shoe-horned into a web application. The engineering team work on Linux, and use Firefox for development and testing; I prefer to use Firefox but am also tasked with getting the same rich set of functionality working in Microsoft’s busted-ass browser.

Getting the clients off IE6 (fetid pile of @#!%) is the real hurdle. Once that happens, and if we can skip IE7 (steaming pile of dung), and go straight to IE8, I might just be able to recover some of my cheery optimism and bon homie. :slight_smile:

Why in the name of all that is Apple would you voluntarily use IE?! :slight_smile: (Safari is nice, Firefox is nice, why would you willingly install IE?)

While Least Original User Name Ever quite correctly notes that many people use IE (though I’d argue a little about “vast percentage” these days as IE’s market share drops monthly… but that rather depends on the market segment; in the corporate world yep, vast percentage, in the web-savvy techie world… not so much. :slight_smile: ), one has to ask what IE’s market share would be if it didn’t come pre-packaged with Windows so that people had to make a conscious choice about it.

Funny timing. I just switched from IE7 to Firefox yesterday, even though I felt like I should switch for over a year now. Now I’m supposed to want to switch back? Fie I say!

Arguing and bickering about what it’d be if it weren’t pre-packaged isn’t an option. It is prepackaged and the vast majority do use it. 78% !

It is required to connect to work. I have to use IE to download a browser-based VPN client. Then I open Remote Desktop.

It would be too easy to let us use the OS X VPN client and the OS X Remote Desktop client, wouldn’t it? Instead, I had to install Windows and dual-boot it.

In normal life, i. e. to connect to the SDMB, I use FireFox. Though last week I did manage to connect using iCab on System 7.6.1. :smiley:

I’m hearing…whining.
Yes, definitely whining. It’s a browser, not a life choice.

I was a fan of Firefox 1.0-1.5, but 2.0 is terrifically unstable, so I switched back to IE7 and generally I’m happy.

I’m glad that IE8 will be fully standards-compliant.

All you people who drool over Opera/Firefox etc. I’ve tried them both, and I just don’t get what you people are so gaga over. I see no freaking difference - plus I like IE7s tabbing more. You must be visiting unusual sites or doing things online that I never have because I have never had IE7 do anything bad.

I’d love to be steered to a commercial site that is broken in IE7. Feel free to post examples so maybe I can share in your Microsoft hatred,

Also, now that IE8 is on the horizon, there are still whiners who are mad at the fact that while IE8 will be fully standards-compliant. it can still support “non-standard” standards. Is there no pleasing you people? If they break backwards compatibility you’d be all over them.

That’s the tricky part.

As long as some non-trivial portion of the web users out there use IE6, it’ll be in a business’s best interest to ensure that a site works flawlessly with it. If you’re working with internal clients only, then it’s an issue with you and your IT dept, but if the site is for the general public, I’d say we still have a number of years worth of IE6 left to weather.

This isn’t the pit, so I’ll just answer factually and calmly as possible.

IE7’s installer trashed the hard drive of a couple of computers I tried it on - that didn’t set me up to like it.
I find the interface ugly, messy, unintuitive and unconfigurable.
That’s why I hate IE7

Firefox has very many useful extensions. That alone is enough to make me love it.

Fair enough. I never had any IE7 installation issues in the 10 or so installs I had to perform (on various machines) so I understand how that could be off-putting.