IE8 beta -- happy dance

I like IE7’s look compared to Firefox. Firefox has a crapload of extensions and add-ons, but StumbleUpon is for Internet Explorer now, so if I have a preference, then it’s Internet Explorer all the way.

That’s lucky, I guess. Thing that irks me more than its appearance (which irks me a lot) is the fact that it’s designed to look like a skinnable app, but it’s not actually skinnable (not with any ease, anyway). I’m sure it was approved by focus groups and committees, and all, but the thing comes across to me like one of those apps laid out to one quirky programmer’s weird idiosyncrasies about how things ought to be.

When you say ‘for’, you don’t mean ‘exclusively for’, do you? (Stumbleupon is available for Firefox, is what I mean - your phrasing makes it sound like you’re saying StumbleUpon signed an exclusive deal with IE or something)

It was nasty - I installed it, rebooted, and got a blue screen. I put it down to coincidence, and managed to boot the system sufficiently to get system restore working, so I tried again, and the same thing happened.

Turned out that it was disabling the pagefile and corrupting the master file table at some point midway in the install. I think this problem only manifests on certain types of drive or drive controller, or some such, but it was enough to push me over to Firefox completely (Except for visiting Windows Update, for which I still use IE6).

Firefox has less people trying to attack it with viruses and spyware. It has convenient extensions and a changeable interface. I also have it set up so that if I type " i godfather" it automatically does an IMDB search for godfather.

I don’t know if I can’t do all this in other browsers, but it is the reason I’m sticking to Firefox.

No, StumbleUpon (as far as I know) was first out for Firefox, but then spread to Internet Explorer.

You can use IETab to do Windows Update in Firefox…

Because most sites have a ton of duct tape and workarounds to make them actually work in IE6/7. Odds are you’re not seeing some of the visual goodness the rest of us are seeing.

Those look fine in my IE7 browser.

Market share does not equate to quality, security and support for standards-compliance.

Strange, while I have some reservations about IE7, I have some about fire fox also. I have had to install about 12 IE7 upgrades and willingly did 4 at home. So I am 16 for 16 with installs. Your track record sounds abnormally bad with IE7 problems.

I mainly stick to IE, only as that is the standard that I we use at work and it is better for my job if I can troubleshoot IE6 & 7 glitches.

Jim

I dunno. I’m unmoved. Quality is purely subjective. I like Internet Explorer and how it looks. It opens up my websites, it gets me my porn, life is good.

I’ve never had security problems, but it doesn’t mean they don’t exist. They get dealt with anyways (eventually).

Support for standards-compliance is the part that the vast majority really doesn’t care about. That’s the domain of the web-builders and such.

In any case, I’m not trying to start shit. I use both (Firefox at work and Internet Explorer everywhere else). There isn’t a huge difference, so I choose to roll with Internet Explorer because it’s my default. Also, I like it.

Is it 2005 again?

I have to use both. I switched to Firefix a few months ago, and like it well-enough, but I’m notorious for having many windows/tabs/programs open at the same time, and after awhile, the sound just stops working in Firefox. I’ll click on a YouTube link, or a page with music at MySpace, and get dead air. If I then go open an IE window and put that same URL in, I get sound. It’s pissing me off. Why in the blue blazes would the sound quit working in Firefox and work fine in IE? I see it as something being very wrong with Firefox.

Sounds like a bug or conflict in a Firefox extension.

They will once web site owners start losing ADA lawsuits.

That is the main reason I have been keeping IE6, despite MS desperately trying to install IE7 every chance it gets. I design websites and want to test it on IE6 as I believe most people still have that version on their computers. One joy of designing websites is you have to constantly test for the lowest common denominator, and as far as I know, IE6 is still the main version out there. PLEASE correct me if I am wrong on that assumption!

I personally only use Firefox now, but need them both to troubleshoot. I have sort of stopped bothering testing with Netscape as there seems to be so few users out there today.

And it drives those Web designers batshit insane the way they have to hack and workaround and jerry-rig their sites to get them to (hopefully) work with IE the same way they work with every other browser on the planet.

The other side of the coin is the lazy designers who build sites around Windows/IE-only technology because it’s the “most popular”, and don’t care that their sites don’t work with any other browser. Just try using Comics Price Guide on a Mac.

I get the same problem once in awhile, that is, until I reopen it with IETab, then it works just fine. No need to open IE for it.

Also, Firefox Beta 3 passes the Acid Test 2.

A computer teacher at my last school was complaining about how all of the computers on campus auto-updated to the latest version of IE in the middle of the semester, which she would normally think is great, except that she teaches an intro-to-the-internet type of class which had its entire curriculum rendered worthless on the spot by the update. :rolleyes:

Oh, they aren’t broken because a chunk of development time is spent making the sites work in IE. Depending on how complicated the site is, I could chop off 15-45% of my development time if I didn’t have to track down stupid, obscure IE bugs and making stupid hacks to make it work.

If everyone built sites to standards and then didn’t fix them in IE, you’d be seeing many more broken sites in IE!