If Biden wins, should he aggressively prosecute the previous administration...including Trump?

What are the current US Federal laws on asset forfeiture? Because I could see new AG Warren seizing every single trump asset in the country. Biden has already said he would investigate every person/organization/company that received any payments at all under the various bail=outs and prosecute to the fullest extent any that are the slightest bit hinky. Then jail everyone in the trump administration on charges of Treason and hold them until all the appeals are over as flight risks. Let them all die in orange jumpsuits.

Unfortunately, this is the President’s only recourse when they have an hostile congress. Not necessarily a bad idea - causes both sides to do what today is unthinkable - compromise.

Impossible. As long as people are appointed to positions, their appointments are politicized. Not performing at the whim of the current president? That means that you’ve just created a whole new situation just like the Supreme Court where the actions of one President last well past their administration.

Maybe he can issue an Executive Order for that! :smiley:

That’s really not a precedent anybody wants to set. Do it once, and then it will happen every time a new party assumes power. That won’t benefit anyone.

A reasonable precedent would be for any incoming administration to declassify and publicize everything the previous admin did that is not actually a matter of national security.

When you have a president that says that all conversations with him are classified, that’s a problem. The next president should be able to tell what is appropriate for the public to know, and what is not.

And that president would be held to that standard, as the next one would out him if he tried covering for the previous.

this is why I want sen. harris as ag in a biden admin.

let harris cry havoc and let slip the dogs of justice!

there must be smiting so this type of administration is not repeated.

Then there is no law, only power.

We can’t just throw up our hands and say that presidents can break any law they want and never be held accountable. Maybe we need some sort of special prosecutor or something (someone with actual prosecutorial power) to take out the partisan revenge angle.

I can understand why a President might not want to set that precedent, but as a regular citizen, I do want Presidents to understand that they are subject to the law just like the rest of us.

There has never been this level of criminality, at least in living memory. The precedent that would be set, is that this is okay.

If he really wants to be a “return to normalcy” president, then no.

It pains me to agree with this. It’s not because it’s right, or because BSAB, it’s because Republicans have shown themselves to be the party of criminals who care nothing about justice or decency, only punishing their political opponents. They have tens of millions of voters who are happy to support their ambitions, and who enjoy political power beyond their numbers due to our antiquated political structure.

Nothing we do to punish Trump will teach Republicans a lesson, or prevent a future Republican from committing crimes. It will only embolden them to attack the moment they have the power to do so.

I’d almost say that prosecuting Trump himself is a bad idea, but there’s no reason an incoming AG can’t go after appointees and flunkies for corruption and malfeasance.

Kind of a “the elected guys skate, but if you’re an appointee or Federal bureaucrat, you’re on the hook later on for any crooked shit you do.” kind of thing. That precedent might make future administration functionaries think twice about actually implementing any kind of shady stuff ordered from on high.

I don’t think that hard core prosecution is going to be helpful. That needs to be rooted out and exposed to the light where everyone can see it Even if Biden wins, there is still going to be some 40% of the country that are hard core pro Trump. Any attempt to prosecute him is going to be seen by them as a purely partisan banana republic style witch hunt. Trump will be a martyr and half the country will want to do the same thing to Biden when he’s out of office. Once he’s out of office Trump the man is no longer a problem, what is a problem is Trumpism.

What is really needed is a Truth and Reconciliation process. Start with blanket pardons for everyone for every federal crime related to the administration short of murder or rape. This will hopefully help to convince the country that this isn’t being done purely out of partisan malice, it will also allow witnesses to speak more freely. Then have congress set up an independent commission of investigators with security clearances and subpoena power to uncover every last bit of corruption and malfeasance committed by the administration. No elected officials should be directly involved, and the hearings should be public whenever possible.

The hope would be that Trump could live out his life in luxury holed up in MarLargo, but that his reputation would be completely trashed. No one will touch is brand with a 10 foot pole, and his name will go down in history along with Nixon, McCarthy, and General Custer as an example of true awfulness. The Republican party and their voters will distance themselves from him (Trump who? I never voted for him.) and no one will try to emulate his example.

How so?

Powers &8^]

I dunno … “look at all these Republicans going to prison” might disincentivize similar behavior next time around. But if not …

How on earth is this going to help? Half the country didn’t have the patience or mental capacity to understand that Trump extorting a foreign country to promote his own election chances was wrong. This kind of process would barely even register, let alone make any kind of difference.

One of the most important things that needs to happen is to have Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia finally admitted as states. When that happens, it gives the Dems 4 new seats in the Senate.

(edit - wrong thread I guess, but still…)

Standard procedure is the little fish get off if they testify against the big fish. That might be Trump’s biggest worry.

SCREW “bad precedent.” That ship sailed in 2016. This Administration and every single one of its supporters need to be rooted out, destroyed, exiled, decimated, stripped of everything they own and sent swordless into Palestine. THERE’S your precedent. Every single person in the Administration is a criminal, most of them felons. THEY MUST PAY. Sow their lands with salt, let no two stones stand together. War of the knife and knife to the hilt. I have HAD IT with these fuckers.

Semi-tangent here, but … should the BIden administration deny media privileges to Fox News? They may not be guilty of actual crimes (although I wouldn’t rule it out) but they stopped even trying to create responsible journalism a long time ago. I mean, the National Enquirer doesn’t get credentials, do they?

He should change the culture of the DoJ back to what it was before Trump and then let the FBI and DoJ do their jobs. I assume that will mean some prosecutions. Doesn’t have to be Trump himself to have an impact. Could be his aides, and this time, there won’t be any pardons - at least not for a while.

That’s a little rougher than I would say. But I want EVERY Republican voted out of office. Some, are I am sure good people. BUT ANYONE that supports this administration needs to go away. They need to re-invent themselves into something that is not a criminal mob.