If Christ saves, why condemn homosexuality?

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Um, that is a private matter between God and I, I only answered your question because you asked me directly. Again quite a bit different then me proclaiming that I am a lobster eater,. no less a proud lobster eater.

Actually I see your reply is completely vacuous and being slightly insane. As I said we are all sinners, as He said (w/ paraphrasing) ‘there is none worth, not one’. It is one thing to say we sin as humans, quite another to say, I sin but don’t reconsize the sin, AND I demand you accept my sin as normal, unsinful and wholesome.

No it is not the same, not even close.

No again you miss my point, I eat lobster I have to answer to God, you openly declare your homosexuality, you have to answer to God for your sin (homosexuality) plus those you influnced to think homosexuality is not sinful.

Ok I can take your point, but that is a issue between the (homosexual or lobster eater) and God, but only the openly (homesexual or lobster eater) who demands that their activity is not sinful brings that issue beyond an issue between God and himself.

Since you asked, this came from ‘The Simpsons’. When Homer’s great grandfather to the n(th) power, was known as Homer the Thief, this was the time where the cartoon Mosses cam down w/ the 10 comandments. Needless to say that Homer^n had to look for a new line of work.

But my real point is not that being a thief has anything at all like being a homosexual, but calling yourself X the thief is identical to callijng yourself a homosexual, or a lobster eater

You may try all you want, but I will NOT let you distort my point.

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You don’t need me for that, you’ve done a more than ample job of doing that all by yourself. None of that made a lick of sense. I recognized some of them as valid English words (albeit somewhat the worse for wear from the misspellings), but when put together they don’t form coherent sentences.

If anyone would care to come in and clarify, please do. Until then, I’ll just have to say:

Um, okay. Good point, if you say so. And I already answer to God, thanks, and we’re doing quite well. He’s okay with the whole gay business, as long as I don’t step into his territory and hypocritically judge other lest I be judged.

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Excuse me while I return to a familiar old tune. The Bible condemns a great many things, usually right alongside the same passages which are used to condemn homosexuality and in more explicit language. I think one reason some Christians focus more on homosexuality than other sins mentioned right along with it is that it’s a sin which they are not likely to commit, unlike gosssip, malice, slander, greediness, etc.

I’d elaborate, but I’ve just realized I’m not awake yet. :yawn:
CJ

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Thats a good point I don’t think anyones mentioned or thought about before.

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In my opinion the real question should be:

If God is the Creator of All, why would God created people who are homosexual and then condemn them for being like He created them?

Salaam. A

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Now that I’m more awake, I’d like to elaborate. I personally have been far more damaged by gossip, malice, and slander, than I have ever been damaged by homosexuality. Indeed, as far as I know, I’ve never been damaged by homosexuality at all; in fact, I may owe my life to an old friend who happens to be homosexual. Slander, however, cost me the friendship of the poster above a couple of months ago (I’m refering to an accusation of watering down the gospel and seeking popularity). Gossip, malice, and slander are actively costing a friend of mine his marriage, and that lovely trio have nearly cost both him and me our lives at various points. Christ roundly and openly condemns hypocrisy and being quick to judge others, but I’ll be the first to admit that I find those far more tempting than doing anything more than hugging another woman.

One other point. Homosexuals are different. They’re not like the rest of us; they’re not interested in the same thing, at least in one area. Now, that makes no difference to me, because I, too was different, and, if it comes down to it, I figure we’re all different; it’s just that’s more obvious when you’re talking about some of us than others. Whether you call it a character flaw or evidence of man’s sinful nature, human beings are quick to condemn and ostracize those who they perceive as different, whether it’s because they’d prefer to date someone of the same sex or eat toad-in-the-hole for dinner (that doesn’t go over well in the U.S.A.). If I say Jane Doe’s a sinner for doing something which I do, or my little brother, or my best friend, that doesn’t speak well of me, my little brother or my best friend. If I say she’s a sinner for doing something which I, my family, and friends would never do (please read that in a shocked tone of voice with a hand pressed to one’s brow and a look of suitable social horror), then that must surely mean we are good people for, whatever other sins we may commit, even if we commit them on a daily basis (to quote my one of my church’s Confessions of Sin, “We have not loved you with our whole heart. We have not loved our neighbors as ourselves.”), then we must surely be good, righteous, and decent people, unlike Jane Doe and her ilk over there.

Anyway, that’s my purely unscientific take on it,
CJ

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Excuse me. While I was typing, Aldebaran snuck in above me. My comment about the poster above me was not directed at you, sir, and if I caused any offense, I apologize.

CJ