I’ll answer you like I answer everybody else. You choose who you do business with. I choose who I do business with. It’s not up to you, and you’re not entitled to a justification. Deal with it.
If you need me to spell it out - sarcastic exasperation with tedious false equivalence, with “both sides do it” responses.
The entire problem with Trump and his supporters is that this kind of behavior is not within the spectrum of normal political discourse among civilized people. This is about whether people have a fundamental grasp on reality, whether they are literally delusional; and whether their worldview is so despicable that it’s not compatible with the qualities of empathy and respect for the dignity of other human beings that are especially important in a therapist.
When you buy a can of coke from the shop do you vet the cashier before you pay to make sure you both share the same politics? If they voted for Trump instead of Biden, do you go and put the can back on the shelf?
If and when you get ill or injured, I assume you’ll ask the surgeon to show a copy of their ballot card before operating, just so you know their medical credentials?
These are all false equivalencies. An emergency is different from engaging a therapist. And the can of coke example is a terrible example.
So then, If I move to the US and decide I need to see a therapist what I really need to be looking for among their credentials is if they say they didn’t vote for Trump?
If there is a Trump sign in the window, I’m not even going into that store. See below:
If that’s the level of insight you have into people’s concerns about a therapist, I’ll have to restate my corollary conclusion.
Yes. Not being from the U.S., you may not understand completely how repulsive to American ideals Trump has been and how his supporters have threatened most of what we value. The last four years have been profoundly disturbing for many reasons, but widespread support for such a reprehensible incompetent is high on the list.
A cashier being a fundamentally dishonest person, or just a total fucking idiot, doesn’t really impact my ability to purchase and enjoy a can of coke. A therapist being fundamentally dishonest or just a total fucking idiot means I’m not getting good therapy from them.
The extent to which “Trump supporter” and “fundamentally dishonest or total fucking idiot” overlap is obviously debatable, but let’s stop pretending we use the same standards for medical professionals that we use for stock boys.
The claim that any Trump or anyone else supporter must only be a ‘quasi, semi evil, diet coke’ supporter to be a worthwhile therapist, or anything else is simply ridiculous.
Not everyone voted for Trump because he said he wanted to build a wall. Many supported him because he was seen as Anti-establishment, someone who would work for hard working Americans, any number of reasons.
If this therapist happens to be Mexican or Mexican-American, do they need to interrogated as well?
It’s funny, I agree that not everyone that voted for Trump is evil and stupid. But watching some terrible examples in this thread almost looks like a Liberal attempt to convince people all Trump voters are idiots.
I have friends that voted for Trump. Until COVID got bad, I still hung out with them. The one is not dumb, he’s not evil. He clearly watches a lot more Fox than I do, but that is about it. He’s a nice guy and smart. He is old, past retirement age.
The other is probably average intelligence and I’ll admit he’s somewhat racist. He’s also my oldest friend so I make allowances for him.
In 2016, maybe. But now nobody has any excuse - after 4 years, they can see exactly what he is, and his values.
If they are still a Trump supporter in 2020 they are either extremely ignorant, literally delusional, or despicable. If somebody has the intelligence and education to be a qualified therapist, that pretty much rules out the “extremely ignorant” category, leaving delusional and despicable.
Stop trying to sound all psuedo intellectual Mike Tyson in your posts.
Someone voting for Trump doesn’t make them an untrustworthy person.
The election was still fairly close after 4 years of Trumps apparent fuckwittery, was it not? Nearly half of voters still would prefer him to Biden, you’re smarter than all those people though.
As the OP, I would like the thread to be focused on therapists, thanks. If that’s too much to ask of the valiant defenders of Circle-K clerks and other soda dispensers, then I’m fine with it being closed as I consider the question answered. Thanks!
I’m confused, are you saying Mike Tyson is the archetype of the pseudo-intellectual? Or that I’m a pseudo-intellectual version of Mike Tyson? Although either way, I think I may have follow-up questions.
What do you hate about Trump so much then, his covid strategy, or, what?
This is really taking the thread off topic. Please don’t go here.
Agreed. The point if this thread is what matters in finding a therapist, and whether it’s legitimate to ask if a therapist is a Trump supporter. Not whether any trump supporter can be good, or whether you’d buy a can of coke from one, or what’s bad about trump, or biden, or…
If the thread keeps drifting off into the weeds, I will close it.
Then you could learnt about those value systems best from a trump supporter no?
No official warning, because I assume you posted without seeing my last two notes. But please stop posting to this thread. Your last several posts have been attempts to drag the thread off topic. If you are actually interested in engaging with the core questions here, PM me to discuss. Do not post again to the thread without explicit mod permission.