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This thread will shortly be arriving in Cuba. Please return your seats to the upright position and fasten your seat belts…
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It’s been circling Havana for several days, now, although it seems that the majority of the passengers were in favor of the new destination.
[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]
Yum.
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A half-baked observation, sirrah!
[QUOTE=Der Trihs]
And to continue the analogy, as far as I’m concerned, I and other atheists are saying “You idiots ! Haven’t you heard about all the people who died from food poisoning here ?!” Religion isn’t harmless stupidity; it’s an immensely destructive force.
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So because some people have served poisoned pizza nobody should eat it ever again? That’s pretty shortsighted of you.
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar]
So because some people have served poisoned pizza nobody should eat it ever again? That’s pretty shortsighted of you.
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How’s that Taco Bell diet working out for ya?
[QUOTE=kanicbird]
bread with humans
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and we are back to the pizza issue. :smack:
[QUOTE=Malacandra]
This thread will shortly be arriving in Cuba. Please return your seats to the upright position and fasten your seat belts…
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That was such a popular joke a million years ago. Hadn’t heard that one in a while. Good one. 
[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]
How’s that Taco Bell diet working out for ya?
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So you’re saying I should never eat Mexican food again because Taco Bell served someone some bad burritos?
[QUOTE=PBear42]
I notice that no one has yet commented on, to pick one, Polycarp’s response at Post #32.
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You can’t be “noticing” very hard then, because while people didn’t directly quote Poly’s account, a lot of the pre-derailed discussion was over or at least aiming for sussing out this concept of a spiritual body and its connection to a physical body, especially one that had once been dead.
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar]
So you’re saying I should never eat Mexican food again because Taco Bell served someone some bad burritos?
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No, I’m saying that when you become aware of a food poisoning problem at a particular establishment, many people wisely choose not to patronize that establishment until they’re able to assure you that they’ve solved the problem. An idiot, however, chooses to eat there twice a day, regardless, because he hasn’t yet been poisoned.
You’re still able to function, despite your exposure to Xianity? That’s nice, but it doesn’t mean that Xianity is good for mankind at this point in time.
[QUOTE=Apos]
You can’t be “noticing” very hard then, because while people didn’t directly quote Poly’s account, a lot of the pre-derailed discussion was over or at least aiming for sussing out this concept of a spiritual body and its connection to a physical body, especially one that had once been dead.
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I wanted to respond to the part of your post that was not a dodge of the question PBear42 asked you.
I see no sussing out of the concept of a spiritual body or its connections. Where is this alleged sussing? Surely you are not including in your sussage anything as silly as a demand for empirical evidence of a spirit, are you? And if you have sussed with logic, where is your tableau?
I see your suss and raise you two susses. If you would like to consolidate your sussage into the OP of a new thread, I’ll be happy to look at it and participate in a discussion about it.
Mmm… bread and sussages. 
Yeah, Sapo, I plead guilty to perpetrating an old joke. I think it happened once before. In 1960… Ow! Ow! Stoppit!!
[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]
No, I’m saying that when you become aware of a food poisoning problem at a particular establishment, many people wisely choose not to patronize that establishment until they’re able to assure you that they’ve solved the problem. An idiot, however, chooses to eat there twice a day, regardless, because he hasn’t yet been poisoned.
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All I’m saying is that Taco Bell doesn’t exactly have the monopoly on Mexican food. And it’s much better at those other places, too.
You’ve been exposed to Christianity as well, would you consider yourself “able to function” (whatever that’s supposed to mean)?
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar]
You’ve been exposed to Christianity as well, would you consider yourself “able to function” (whatever that’s supposed to mean)?
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I’ve been immunized, thanks.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
I wanted to respond to the part of your post that was not a dodge of the question PBear42 asked you.
I see no sussing out of the concept of a spiritual body or its connections. Where is this alleged sussing? Surely you are not including in your sussage anything as silly as a demand for empirical evidence of a spirit, are you? And if you have sussed with logic, where is your tableau?
I see your suss and raise you two susses. If you would like to consolidate your sussage into the OP of a new thread, I’ll be happy to look at it and participate in a discussion about it.
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No. I asked several pointed questions about and caricatures regarding the nature and responsibility and intentionality of the transference of wounds from one body to another before things got off track, and so I reject this sort of bad faith refusal to read what I wrote, your attitude, and your MO.
[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]
I’ve been immunized, thanks.
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Okay…
So are we pizzas, tacos, or viruses?
[QUOTE=Apos]
No. I asked several pointed questions about and caricatures regarding the nature and responsibility and intentionality of the transference of wounds from one body to another before things got off track, and so I reject this sort of bad faith refusal to read what I wrote, your attitude, and your MO.
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Despite the strangled syntax of that sentence, I get the gist of it. Does it pretty much amount to, “I have spoken, so mote it be.”?
[QUOTE=Uzi]
When the koran says to kill unbelievers in defense of their faith and the followers then go out and do that how is that a misinterpretation on their part? When the bible says to burn witches and homosexuals, how is that a misinterpretation? Is it the word of god or isn’t it? Is there a time limit on the bad things in those books so that the current believer knows which parts to follow and which parts to ignore? And if parts of the book are now obsolete and should be ignored then why doesn’t the omnipotent and omniscient god let us know that? Why does he leave obscure passages in HIS book that allows people to go out and do, what most of us consider, evil in HIS name?
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Where in the Bible does it say to burn witches or homosexuals?
I have not read the Koran but as I understand it from some Muslims it is supposed to be a religion of peace.
I do not believe either book is the word of God as I do know it was written by humans.for humans. The sincere people I know seem to look for good and try to be good towards others.The radicals look for excuses to use a few passages to their own ends.
Monavis
[QUOTE=kanicbird]
He does seem like it to us, not just here but many places in the Bible, He has plan, and not even Jesus knows what it is at times, we don’t have a chance of figuring Him our the way I see it- until He wants us to.
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How could he NOT? They are both the same dude. Remember that whole Trinity thing?
This is where religious people lose me; they turn logic into a pretzel in order to attempt to make sense of the absurd.
[QUOTE=monavis]
Where in the Bible does it say to burn witches or homosexuals?
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And others say it tells them to blow up the infidels.
If it was written by humans then the humans who follow these books can remove the questionable passages. They chosen not to for some reason. Maybe they because they agree that you should burn witches? Dunno.
But most people who follow these books think they are the direct word of god, or at the least inspired by him. Why would god put such questionable passages in his books if it is about Christ’s love, or is a book of peace?
[QUOTE=monavis]
Where in the Bible does it say to burn witches or homosexuals?
Monavis
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Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
For the full range of cruelty and inhaminity to gays in the Bible, see http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htm
The Koran doe snot actually propose a punishment for homosexuals but it clearly condemns them:
Homosexual acts are condemned as unnatural. (Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?) 7:80-81
Male homosexual activities are condemned as unnatural. Surah 26:165-6
Male homosexuals commit abominations and act senselessly. Surah 27:54-55
Male homosexuals acts are condemned as unnatural. Surah 29:28-29
The Hadiths, which are the recorded sayings of Mohammed and much used in modern Islam to justify various acts of bigotry, cruelty and violence, usually record that homosexuals should be killed.
In Iran, they are frequently hanged.
In many other Muslim countries, gay people are taken to prison where, for a few dollars, the helpfull staff of the prison is willing to help the family preserve its honour by stringing the young man (rarely is it a woman) up in his cell and letting him, strangle slowly and painfully. He is then recorded as having committed suicide and the family honour is saved. All parise be to Allah, the just, the merciful! :rolleyes:
In Egypt last year, a number of gay men found partying on a boat were condemned to stiff prison sentences over the objections of governments and human rights organizations throughout the world.
Ain’t religion wonderful?