I disagree.
I think he’s getting instructions from Russia.
Why can’t he be getting both, like the late Earl Warren?
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Earl Warren did a lot of work to advance civil rights and progressive causes. And you’re saying he got marching orders from Khrushchev?
Depending on your favorite flavor of conspiracy, Earl Warren was a stooge for the Russians, the Cubans, the Mob, LBJ, or Ted Cruz’s father.
Twitter didn’t exist then.
He would have used the office Xerox.
Other than LBJ, none of those others you mention would have been in support of the outcomes of Brown vs. Board of Education, Loving vs. Virginia, Griswold vs. Connecticut, and many others from the Warren Court. Although if we’re talking about conspiracy theories then I suppose it shouldn’t surprise me given how conservatives seem to be all about conspiracy theories about liberals who actually made the country a better place.
During WWII, as the California AG he earned a black mark regarding the interment of the Japanese.
The United States entered World War II after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941.[46] Following the attack, Warren organized the state’s civilian defense program, warning in January 1942 that, “the Japanese situation as it exists in this state today may well be the Achilles’ heel of the entire civilian defense effort.” He became a driving force behind the internment of over one hundred thousand Japanese Americans without any charges or due process.[47] Though the decision to intern Japanese Americans was made by General John L. DeWitt, and the internment was carried out by federal officials, Warren’s advocacy played a major role in providing public justification for the internment.[48] By early 1944, Warren had come to regret his role in the internment of Japanese Americans, and he approved of the federal government’s decision to allow Japanese Americans to begin returning to California in December 1944.[49]
I agree he was wrong on that particular position. It looks like that link shows he himself realized that a few years later.
Yup. That’s why I included it in the quote. However, at what point does contrition overcome the offense? Is anyone going to pay any attention to Bill Cosby even if he was to show remorse and make good on his victims?
Back to the OP. I’m wondering if a lame duck Trump won’t pull a trick from the faltering dictator playbook and basically try to buy the people’s love. Congress won’t let him just write everybody a check (he’s tried), but he could empty the Federal Prisons, distribute all FEMA stockpiles to the poor, fire the entire staff of the IRS. All in the vain hope that he’ll never be convicted in a future jury trial.
That stuff all sounds too much like work. I do expect Trump to (try to) pardon himself, and force the Supreme Court to rule once and for all whether a president can do that. (No points for guessing how this court would rule on that.)
Even if it goes 5-4 against Trump with Gorsuch as the swing vote, it wouldn’t matter. He would just pull the I quit so Pence can pardon me card.
You think poorly of Trump, as do I. But, you need to be aware that not everyone agrees with this assessment. He is very strong when it comes to a cult of personality, otherwise, how does he get people at his rallies, how does he get people to vote for him?
If it were not for the fact that there have been sycophants working for and propping him up all his life, and much more so for the last few years, then I’d agree with you that he would not be able to attract sycophants to work for him and prop him up. But, reality rears its ugly head, and shows us that there are people that are doing exactly that.
They are not doing this for someone else. I have said this and repeated this numerous times, so for you to continue to ask why they would do this for someone else just says that you are ignoring what I have said, and responding to something else. They are doing it for themselves.
Tell me this, how does Biden winning the presidency put any of Trump’s underlings in power? In order to have power, they need someone that will let them have power, and that person is Trump, not his rival.
The people that you just described much more closely align with McConnell, Barr, and Gaetz. You know, the ones who worked behind the scenes to prop up a dictator in the hopes of furthering their own personal ambitions.
I think we make too much out of the pardon scenario. A presidential pardon won’t keep Trump out of Rikers or Sing Sing.
I want him to pardon himself and I want this to be challenged in court. Win or lose, we need to know if this is permissible. Sure, there are plenty of state charges that could put him in the big house but it would be nice to see his pardon overturned and have him face federal charges too.
I hope the Biden victory is so massive that whining about mail in ballots will fall on deaf ears. If he loses TX and IA and GA and AK and FL in addition to the rust belt, it’s going to be far beyond Bill Barr’s wettest dream to overturn the election in court.
Of course he won’t graciously concede, he’ll piss and moan how it was so unfair and rigged. But with such a huge defeat, nobody will listen. He’ll rage up until Inauguration Day and then charter a plane for Moscow.
About the whole “chartering a plane for Moscow” thing: do you think that he could possibly be prevented or discouraged from making any kind of foreign trips immediately following the election? I realize that this would be an extreme measure, but Trump would seem to be an even worse security risk once he realized that he was no longer going to be sitting in the Oval Office before the end of January 2021.
My fear is that he might come fully unhinged and literally call for his supporters to defend his presidency by any means necessary, and this would include threatening or outright demanding that former enablers that have turned against him be “dealt with” in a 2nd amendment kind of way…
I honestly can’t believe that I typed that. I really hope that I’m wrong…
About 95% of us underestimated how bad and/or effectual he would be, and I’m afraid we are still underestimating how bad and/or effectual he will be in the coming weeks/months.
At what point does the Secret Service wash their hands of him? Or are they obligated to accompany him to wherever he flees to?
Would Moscow want him after he’s stopped being useful?
While I might openly deplore this (because, y’know, I are civilized), I would probably not go so far as to demonstrate in the streets in protest . . .