If Trump wins the White House, will the Mainstream Media admit it?

This isn’t how polls work. In some polls, national and swing state, he’s taken a lead. In others he hasn’t. Overall he’s much closer, by the polls, over the last week or two than for the several weeks before, but it’s certainly not clear that he’s taken a lead in either (most poll aggregators still have Clinton ahead, but by a smaller margin than before).

I do hope he doesn’t talk to “normal people” the way he does here…

“I DARE you to cite one SPECIFIC example of where Rush or Drudge LIED!
You can’t do it, because you’re an ignorant liberal WHORE, Grandma!”

[entire family drops their forks]

“Ta.”

Cher’s Absolutely Positively Final This Time I Really Mean It Farewell Tour.

GIGO, you eventually realized that talking to [del]FXMastermind[/del] was a waste of electrons. Same here, man.

This guy’s retired more times than Brett Favre.

Favre’s gonna pitch for the Cubs.

But evidence of it “around here” was not your original complaint. Your OP was about the media outlets themselves. And the media outlets you were complaining about have been discussing Trump’s improving poll numbers all week.

This is, unsurprisingly, another of your dishonest tactics: moving the goalposts. When people point out that your claim about the actual media outlets is full of shit, you move the goalposts and complain that people “around here” haven’t been talking about it. Classic **Starving Artist **misdirection.

So your complaint is that the thing i said you’re dishonest about is different than the thing other people are accusing you of being dishonest about?

Big fucking deal.

If there’s one thing that’s clear, based on years of experience on this message board, it’s that you’re eminently capable of being dishonest on multiple fronts and multiple topics at once.

Where’s the beef, Starving Artist? If you want to claim that left-leaning news sources intentionally ignore Clinton losing ground in order to make news rather than report on it, you really have to make two cases: (1) they really are ignoring it, and (2) they wouldn’t behave similarly if the polls showed the race going in Clinton’s favor.

You haven’t done either of those things. Please do so. Show what NYT politics pages look like now and what they looked like when the race started going Clinton’s favor – demonstrate how they differ. You’ve shown no proof and made no case.

You’re not being taken seriously, and you’re doing your best to ensure that you shouldn’t be. It’s in your court to stem that tide.

Yes you are.

OK, Siri, here’s the job. Look up every time SA said “That’s it, I’m out of here!” and then posted. Count those posts. Open his bank account, take out a dollar for every one. If it breaks him, open it again and put a couple hundred back in.

Send the rest to the Moderator Xanax Fund. Be sure to include its me, I need the brownies…

Well, I have to tell you that after many years of dealing with SA and FX, FX Mastermind was as you report, but SA here is on record of not going to Vote for Trump. He is not going to vote for Hillary either, but I’m not expecting a pony. The point is that at least he listens. It may be just 5-10% of what we say, but he gets something unlike the others.

That was however a good item to point out that Rush and many Republicans are on the wrong side of even science regarding climate change. Just by taking that important issue into account it is clear how off base Starving Artist is.

Conservatives of today do not give a damn about future generations, and they were not giving much help to the past generations that had the most needs in America after Nixon.

May I suggest a refinement of terminology, or at least prioritizing degrees of trollery. An example of a 100% unmitigated troll with no purpose other than mindless trolling with no thought behind it whatsoever would be this one. Compared to that, SA is merely a delusional far-right nutjob who is probably just off his meds. He once declared Trump the greatest thing since sliced bread and the smartest guy to ever run for president (the exact words escape me, but that was the gist), then backed off his support, but seems to be slowly getting back on the bandwagon again. It may all just be a function of dosage, but the point is, there are worse than him around.

As I pointed out, it is clear that the echo chamber is there and some of the echo comes from Rush, as you do check him on the internet your honesty claim is just a fig leaf.

Have we *ever *seen somebody post less *after *a drama-queenish flounce-off than before it?

Just to be scrupulously fair to the crawling little turd, how can anyone demonstrate point (2) – what the media would do in a hypothetical and counter-factual situation?

Of the last ten national polls noted on 538, which is to say every reputable one, eight have Clinton ahead, one Trump ahead, one tied.

He is very close but it seems very, very likely Clinton is just a little bit ahead as of now.

You were also called a liar for announcing (repeatedly) that you were leaving this thread and returning (repeatedly) to it. How about addressing that?

Oooh, you’re just a big nasty silly that deserves a good slap!

Easy peasy. After the Democratic National Convention, and related items like Trump’s fight with the Gold Star Family, Hillary’s polling shot way up. Was the polling (and I mean specifically the polling) reported on in the predicted manner?

There’s a shitload of shit here.

First, your Fox Story does not mention the electoral college. What it says about the popular vote is this:

The only Drudgy link I could find is this, which redirects to a Reuters story–surely a part of the mainstream media if ever there were one. It says:

So again, it says nothing about Trump overtaking Clinton in the popular or electoral votes, indeed saying precisely the opposite in both cases.

Now, it’s true that on looking at NYTimes and NPR (I didn’t check the others out), all their stories about the election seemed to be on substantive issues instead of on the horse-race aspect. In the biz, we call that a feature, not a bug. When I want horserace coverage, that’s what fivethirtyeight is for. I WANT my media to cover the issues in the race.