Sounds like an ignorant cop-I counted at least two violations on the part of the other guy (using the bike lane, running the red light, and probably reckless driving on top of that). I certainly would have fought that in court, esp. if thousands of dollars of damage and/or insurance hikes were in the offing.
Accident severity after the roundabout was put in: I don’t know, but both streets were 35mph so there probably weren’t that many severe accidents in the first place. There’s a few places in the state where one direction has a 65 mph speed limit.
Double right turn on red: Yes, it’s legal to turn from both lanes absent any other instruction. I’ve seen signs “right turn on red right lane only”, and it’s more usual to have a red arrow or other seperate indication for multiple right turn lanes.
Never mind, I didn’t see the context for a post.
I too live in Calgary, and for the life of me, cannot figure out why this idiocy was implemented?.. :smack:
I mean, drivers must pass a road test in order to achieve a license, so making a safe left turn just seems part and parcel of that road test, thus why the necessity of inconveniencing and delaying cars making a left turn? Is it because it’s assumed not everyone can pull off a left turn safely? How did they get a license?.. 
I suppose if you were to ask the City why, they would give you the usual “safety” rhetoric :rolleyes:
I’m still trying to figure out the “Yield to Pedestrians” signs. Where, exactly, are the intersections where I have carte blanche to mow them down?
I don’t like the stop for pedestrians signs. The yield versions are fine, but the image of a stop sign shouldn’t be used for something conditional.
I’ve never in my life heard that called a Philly Left. Nor have I noticed Phlly drivers not honking at the drivers doing it in front of them. In doing a Google search the only place it is called that is on that web page you linked to. I have, however, often heard it referred to as a Pittsburgh Left. The first time I heard this term it was used by a Pittsburgh resident, as she pulled the maneuver and I held on for dear life. The people going straight didn’t seem perturbed by our going first.
Years ago an intersection in Carson City was one of the first to get a LEFT YIELD TO [green ball] signs for both directions. I was first in the left-hand lane, the light turned green and a kid going the opposite way starts to turn from the left turn lane. He abruptly brakes, honks, shakes his fist at me, then proceeds to drive into the path of the guy behind me. Apparently two lanes of traffic moving against him wasn’t enough of a clue.
Considering I see at least one person a week failing to yield while making a left turn WITH a sign telling them what to do, I’d say you’re on to something. Maybe the sign could be bigger so it can define the word yield.
Depends on the law. They changed the law recently in NJ.
In the past, you had to yield to pedestrians in the crosswalk. Technically, all that means is that you are supposed to give right of way to the pedestrian, you don’t HAVE to stop, and you can go as soon as they are out of your way.
Now, you have to stop for pedestrians in a crosswalk. The law says if there’s a pedestrian in the crosswalk, you must stop and wait for them to be OUT of the crosswalk before proceeding. It’s no longer legal to cross in front of them, behind them, or go around them.
Lord Feldon, the main difference is that if the pedestrian isn’t in a crosswalk, you can’t get a ticket for driving around them.
Unless the law is that you have to stop at the crosswalk no matter what, a stop sign isn’t appropriate.
I was just driving through Michigan, where they have a flashing red light (round, not an arrow) on the traffic signal for the left-turn lane…which means you can turn left. After stopping. And oncoming traffic still has the right-of-way, so it’s not a protected left (which is a green arrow, same as anyplace else). This was a trifle odd to someone from Atlanta, although I guess I can see the logic of it…a flashing red light at an intersection is equivalent to a stop sign–you have to stop, but after you stop, assuming it’s safe to do so, you can go. So, it’s kind of like a stop sign (of the “oncoming traffic does not stop” kind) for the left-turn lane.
Of course, now that I’ve figured it out and Googled to confirm it, I’m a.) no longer in Michigan and b.) it’s being phased out anyway.
And now I just saw one of the flashing yellow left turn arrows (in Wisconsin).
Your shitting me.
Just completed a 4000 mile road trip. Colorado to the Eastern shore. I saw signs that said “Left Turn Arrow” OK. What the hell does that mean? Are they saying “Left on Arrow Only”? Or just letting me know that there is indeed a turn arrow.
There was a concern for a time with drivers, especially older drivers, being too stupid to know what an arrow meant so there was even talk about eliminating them in the late 1990s.
Apparently no one in my small town has heard of this, because they don’t move forward when waiting to turn left. They just sit there like morons. Unless there’s enough room on the shoulder to pass, that means everyone behind you is stuck there too. It drives me insane.
I miss city driving.
They’re letting you know that the left turn arrow is doing just fine - no need to worry about it. 
I don’t know why I’m surprised that there are drivers who are too stupid to know what a left turn arrow means.
I think of Dick Tracy comics when I see those signs. Or, children’s books by Richard Scarry.
I was told in Driver’s Ed that the legal justification is that a car already in an intersection is allowed to turn left on red.
But…only one car! It’s bad when the jerk behind you sneaks through as well. That’s a dangerous running of a red light.
In this town, they just installed one of those flashing yellow arrow signals at the intersection of two heavily traveled roads. Funny thing is, the next traffic light on one of the roads (and subsequent ones) has the old “Left turn yield on O” signs (the “O” is a solid green). Apparently, I guess, is all the idiots turn at the first one and there is nothing wrong with the others. Either that, or they are looking to confuse drivers and the collision repair shops chipped-in to pay for the light.
excavating (for a mind)