:smack: If you really understood your responsibilities, Otto, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Hopefully you really will come to terms and stop resenting your boss for the consequences that you brought on yourself. She’s enforcing company policy which, as you just stated in giant size text, you know you are responsible for following. Did you have another point you can highlight for me?
Nice temper tantrum Otto. Pretty much proves my point about you being unable to understand this. In the OP you said you weren’t pitting your boss because she expects you to be on time. Then you proceed to pit your boss because she took action against you when you didn’t meet her expectations for being on time.
Yep, there’s a big difference there.
All y’all should really back up off of Otto. Two absences? so what! Has no one here ever heard of “personal leave”? If he called in and he had days banked, he should be getting no shit from his boss.
If his workplace does not have a “flextime” policy, then he does need to bestir himself to leave his home early so that he will not be slowed unduly by traffic.
Given the amount of time and space Otto has expended bitching about his job, he needs to polish off the resume and find a new job, ASAP.
Italics mine. Coincidentally, I think it’s been made clear in this thread (and in the three threads that Jadis linked) that Otto does indeed work in a call center.
I must have missed that since he didn’t write in in 36 point font.
OK, so Otto’s told me what he’s not pitting his boss for. Now can anyone tell me what the boss is being pitted for?
You’re at a job where timekeeping is a key feature, so why are you surprised that your boss makes an issue of it? That’s what your boss is being paid to do. If she turns a blind eye to you, then other employers start to follow. The next thing she’s got a department wide problem, rather than one employee she has to take to task.
Really, I don’t see it.
I refer you to items 1-4 of the OP along with the paragraph about the calendar. I did not intend to post them in any particular order of importance but they sort of worked out that way. The two most irritating are number three, the idea that a health condition that, while serious, was handled in such a way as to minimize my absence from work is being held up as an example of a disregard for company policy, and number 4, the idea that she’s trying to pass this off on someone higher up the food chain like she had no choice but to write it up. That’s simply not true. Company policy puts it entirely at her discretion to decide whether or not lateness constitutes a “pattern of abuse” and my perception is that she did not evaluate the circumstances before making the decision to write it up. I don’t think it’s reasonable to cite being away from work at urgent care, with a doctor’s note and a prescription and everything, as part of a “pattern of abuse” and I absolutely don’t think it’s reasonable to cite a long doctor’s appointment when she knew I was going to be at the appointment as part of that “pattern.” Cite me for being caught in traffic a couple of times or mis-setting my alarm clock or whatever, fine, I still think that’s maybe a little on the petty side but at least somewhat understandable. Throw in there times when I was dealing with a health issue and especially a time when she knew exactly what was going on ahead of time and it sucks. Pile on top of that her disingenuous little “oh it’s not me, it’s the company and they made me do it” which is as far as I’m concerned a blatant lie and it becomes Pit-worthy to me. Throw in on top of that the ridiculous little highlighted calendar and here we are. YMMV, but if your goal in posting here is to convince me that points three and four from the OP are excusable you might as well save your time because my opinion on those isn’t going to change. Had those two things not happened I would probably still be annoyed about one and two but wouldn’t have opened a Pit thread.
Okay, Otto. Forget Company policy. Forget that you think your boss is a bitch just because she’s spineless.
Here’s what your attitude toward timeliness does to your cow-orkers.
When I’ve had to speak to my employees about this same issue, I tell 'em their team is counting on them. They will have to stop, drop what they are doing and fill in to cover for someone who couldn’t be bothered to set their alarm properly, plan their route to work, or notify anyone IN ADVANCE of their medical appointments. Point being, it’s not only unprofessional, and inconveniences those with whom you work, but also… it pisses them off. YMMV, but I’m thinking if you work in a call center, you’re late and there’s calls in the queue… your cow-orkers are already cursing you while they have your customers on “mute.”
Your behavior and your attitude teaches others that you work with that you are not a team player, that you cannot be counted on to help them, and you cannot be relied upon to be there to do your share when expected.
Pit that.
– Dogzilla, who also once worked in a call center.
You suggested in the OP that due to (I dunno… the ink color, the penmanship?) some reason you believed your boss had been “making shit up” in this calendar. What exactly, in large fonts - because that helps me think, is offensive about the manner in which she recorded your infractions? She obviously needs a record so she can fire your ass, so why isn’t this record acceptable.
Were I asked for a record of attendance and did I have the ability to run a report showing log-in and log-out time based on user ID, my response to that request would be to run a report of log-in and log-out times for that user ID and give it to the person requesting it. My response wouldn’t be to print up a blank calendar page, color in some of the days and then write underneath the days. I don’t particularly trust my boss (probably has something to do with her putting false information on a quarterly review of mine which I had to go over her head to have removed) and I don’t put it past her to make things up.
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notify anyone IN ADVANCE of their medical appointments.
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It’s funny, I get knocked for posting something in a large font but so many of you seem to have comprehension problems reading the regular size stuff. Exactly how many times and in what point size do I need to post that I advised her of the medical appointment within minutes of returning from urgent care before it registers?
So when you advised her of the second appointment (there’s still no excuse for the first time, notification after the fact is just not acceptable), did you mention that you probably would be late getting back from lunch that day? If not, your excuse still sucks ass.
Otto: so move to another department or get another job (sounds like this supervisor isn’t fond of you and vice versa). And when you do, don’t pull stupid shit like showing up for work late. Problem solved.
Manager for 25 years weighing in here…
One of the biggest problems an inexperienced supervisor has is avoiding being transparent. Not taking responsibility for their actions and blaming the “bad news” on the higher-ups. I obviously don’t know your exact circumstance. It might be that she’s experienced but just incompetent. Or maybe she’s under a lot of pressure from her boss to reduce tardiness. Or, as you say, maybe she’s just a bitch. It’s all irrelevent. Except here in the Pit of course. I have no problem with you complaining about how she handled the situation, but not that she’s handling it. I think that’s one of the reasons you’re getting caught in a firestorm here.
Unfortunately for you, it really doesn’t matter what the reason for the tardiness or absence is. Late is late. In a company with a different culture it might not happen that way, but for you it appears that’s the fact. If indeed they’re trying to build a case to terminate you, then they’ll include whatever they can in order to build a stronger case.
In the courts, that handwritten documentation is perfectly acceptable. Now, if the actual computer login and logout records would contradict her documentation, then you might have something. Calling her to the carpet for doing it manually is unjustified.
Oh for fuck’s sake. This is just stupid. Sorry it didn’t twig in my mind while sitting in urgent care having blood drawn and being wired up to an EKG to whip out my cell phone 15 minutes earlier. I promise the very next time it happens I’ll call earlier. Not that it would have made any difference had I called earlier this time, because as I have pointed out numerous times already and you seem to be ignoring, the reason I was late back from lunch in those instances was not taken into consideration during the write-up. I could have been hit by a car and she would still have marked it down as a tardy.
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In the courts, that handwritten documentation is perfectly acceptable. Now, if the actual computer login and logout records would contradict her documentation, then you might have something. Calling her to the carpet for doing it manually is unjustified.
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I call her on the carpet about it because I have previous experience with her putting false information in an evaluation previously. I think my suspicion of anything she generates is justified.
So which of the 7 lates and 2 absences marked on the calendar were falsified? You object to her recording them, but you haven’t indicated any of them are fabricated from thin air.
<sigh> I never said she falsified them. What I said was that a hand-written notice from her raises my suspicions, and that I am justified in those suspicions because she has previously falsified information in my employment record. You could at least pretend like you’re reading what I actually write before you pop off…
This doesn’t make any sense.
You are suspicious of her “hand written” note, because she has falsified your info before. This leads us right back to the same question you just tried to answer.
Are the 7 lates and 2 absences true or not?
I’ve begun to think that this is a lost cause, folks.
The OP is not going to see anything wrong with his behavior, or his reaction to what seems to be a cut and dried matter. Whatever our response, it will not be his fault.
It reminds me of my 9 year old. If I call him to dinner 3 times niecely, but he’s too zoned on his PS2 to hear me, I sometimes lose patience, go into his room, and yell at him to come to table because the family is waiting. He then sulks and refuses to come to dinner until I apologize, because even though he was in the wrong initially, it doesn’t matter because I didn’t call him to dinner in the proper tone of voice.
It doesn’t matter how much of a deadass Otto is on the job, or who he pisses off, he’s already established that she’s out to get him, so she’s ALWAYS in the wrong.
God, I hate malingerers on shift. Give me a total wack-job that sparks up, so I can toss him out on his ass, instead of the slow career suicide the OP seems to be playing out.
Again, horseshit. I’m not sure how much veracity your claim of previous falsifications has, but you have made the claim again here, in relation to these events. Are you now going to claim that the following quote doesn’t contain the suggestion that the report is false?
Emphasis mine. So do accusations of ‘making shit up’ come to your mind often when there is no evidence? In fact, by the time you wrote your OP, you would have known that any suspicions to this effect were unfounded.