Illuminati vs. Jesus [a debate about evolution]

reef shark, have you heard of endogenous retroviral insertions?

Basically, it’s evidence in the genomes of different organisms that can be used to determine, with a very high degree of confidence, that those organisms share a common ancestor.

It’s exactly the same technique as has been used to analyse ancient manuscripts (including Biblical ones) to determine, for any given set of similar manuscripts, which is a copy of which (and thus, which is the earliest).

But if what the chart and the figures show is that the rise in the crime rate and the (supposed) putting of evolution into the curriculum in 1960 aren’t correlated with each other, then it shows that your hypothesis is false. Evolution didn’t disappear from the curriculum in 1990. Your hypothesis would claim that they are correlated all the time, and they clearly aren’t. There are other problems with your hypothesis. Evolution wasn’t suddenly put into the curriculum in 1960. It had been there for a long time. Furthermore, why would the entry of evolution into the curriculum immediately affect the crime rate? If studying evolution causes children to become criminals, you would expect that it would take a few years for them to graduate and become criminals.

Either find statistics that show that crime is correlated with the entry of evolution in the school curriculum or admit that you’re wrong about that.

Crime increased in 1960? You know what else happened in 1960? Elvis recorded “Are You Lonesome Tonight?” with lyrics written by Roy Turk. Now Turk frequently worked with Fred E. Ahlert, whose son, Fred Jr, worked for the Leo Feist Agency, which in the 1920s was among seven defendants in an anti-trust lawsuit, which claimed Feist and his co-defendents were controlling 80% of the music industry.

After Feist’s death, Metro-Goldwin-Meyer bought the Leo Feist Agency. MGM, as everyone knows, was founded by Jewish business and media magnate Marcus Loew. MGM has controlled Hollywood, and by extension the world’s media, for almost a century. Are you following me here? If there’s no crime, there are no good stories, if there are no good stories, there are no good movies, if there are no good movies, Hollywood goes broke. So Elvis Presley’s recording of “Are You Lonesome Tonight?” allowed MGM and the rest of the Hollywood power to fund an army of street thugs, white collar criminals and suburban drug dealers to infiltrate our streets and create great crime drama story lines. Plus Jews are just always behind everything.

So you see, your notion that evolution being introduced in textbooks is what lead to increased crime in the United States is laughable.

I’m a little weak on my Bible knowledge.

Where does it say in the Bible that evolution does not happen?

All I recall is that God created everything. If God kickstarted a great “machine”, why not make it self sustaining, self regulating? (Hence: science!)

Do you believe that god MUST control every chemical or biological action that takes place everywhere and everywhen in the Universe?

Did I have a bowel movement yesterday at 10:31PM because of God’s direct intervention?

You mean a virus that turns into another virus? Thats no problem for me, its still a virus. I wouldnt compare them to humans though, or any intelligent life.

Humans are a virus? Hmmm, I guess that answers the question about whether you believe in the Matrix or not.

ThefIlluminatinaren’toinrcontrold.

It is a fact.

Unfortunately that’s not true, and given your choice of topic I’m surprised you don’t know about this. There were plenty of intelligent design controversies in recent years, and last year the biggest school book purchasing association (based in Texas, which is not the most science-friendly state) wanted a book that was more friendly to creationist nonsense.

Ain’t democracy great? People who want to have their kids ignorant have plenty of ways to do so (and they’re doing it by weakening science education for everyone, not just by homeschooling ).

This is the thing that always drives me nuts about conspiracy theories. So far, we have the textbook manufacturers, several presidents, school districts around the globe, individual teachers and administrators, 9/11 airline pilots, military personnel, WW2-era pearl harbor survivors, the entire government of Japan, the illuminati and the masons, scientists, “evolutionists,” Jews, Muslims, the papacy, and probably many, many more, and all of them are involved in a centuries-spanning global conspiracy to hide the truth of Jesus and creationism.

They’re doing such an amazing job that not once have any of the hundreds of millions of people involved accidentally let slip enough evidence to conclusively prove their existence, while simultaneously doing such a shitty job that a large chunk of the world still believes in evolution. This isn’t even counting the “half jobs” they’ve done, where even more people believe in both Jesus AND evolution.

I can’t believe the OP didn’t mention this, but Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK from the Texas Schoolbook Depository. Game over, man!

Speaking of evolution and the truth, how long ago do you thing life began on this planet? I consulted the King James version of the Bible, and I couldn’t find a verse that addresses this.

Wouldn’t a “Kennedy Assassination” version of Clue be cool?

There are dozens of fragile balances that exist which makes life barely possible.

Missler explains most of these at 46 minutes into the video.

Ozone, gravity, nuclear forces, etc…

When you do the math, reef shark is the only one who is not in on it.

Shhhhhh!!

And he said he was a patsy, right before he was killed by Ruby.

Why is this an argument against evolution?

Definitely easier to understand. Can I break it down for you to make sure I’ve got it right:

  1. Evolution is contrary to the Bible;

  2. Therefore evolution must be wrong;

  3. Therefore the theory of evolution must have been invented and promoted by the Illuminati.

Um! There seem to be some gaps in your reasoning here. Could you fill them in? Maybe try just one. Even if you take the Bible as gospel (Ha!) how does your belief that evolution is incorrect lead to the conclusion that it is the work of a group called the Illuminati? Can you show any evidence (not statements of belief) that such a group exist or give any concrete way a supposed small and secret group could go about pushing a false theory?

Can you please tell me one fact about evolution? Again, im not talking about natural selection. Thats the whole crux of the debate.

You mean, you’re not in the conspiracy? Dude, they hand out the admission info with every purchase of The Selfish Gene.

edit: goddammit Fear Itself.

Because randomness and sheer chance cannot make all these fragile balances. And then intelligent life on top of it. Randomness and chance explains nothing.