even_sven:
You realize that it’s wildly expensive and not particularly easy, right? The number of babies up for adoption is miniscule, and not every household is ready to manage the issues that often come with an older adopted child.
Yup. And none of those things means the option shouldn’t be on the table.
There’s a difference between saying the option should be on the table and saying “problem solved”. Plenty of people who would like to adopt a child discover that they can’t.
Wow. I guess it’s true what they say about people losing their sense of humor when kids are involved.
Saraya:
No good man will just up and leave because you pressured him a bit to do something that you want - and that he may want as well.
If he did, he wasn’t a good man - see how that works?
If you’re not wholly decided on whether having kids will ruin your ‘fun’ or not, then you’re not ready to be a mother.
You tell him what you want. If he says “no” then you decide what to do next.
This is a 9 year old zombified thread. As for what actually happened:
Stainz:
Oh my goodness, what a blast from the past! I stayed with my wonderful, amazing, 5yearsyounger man, and got pregnant (we weren’t trying, but we weren’t NOT trying) in February 2005 and gave birth to a brilliant and beautiful daughter that fall. She is now 7 1/2. Things fell into place for me in just the right way and I feel so lucky. Sorry to gush …
I’m 42, no children, never been married, and don’t give half a shit about it.
In case that makes anyone feel better.
Doggo
May 2, 2013, 2:16pm
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Strainger:
I’m 42, no children, never been married, and don’t give half a shit about it.
In case that makes anyone feel better.
I like your style.
You are are a clever person to avoid the traps.
astro:
I’m a divorced dad who paid CS for 2 kids over 12 years, I understand the lay of the land re marriage so save your childish, arm waving gibberish for the boys at the bar. I get what’s involved and the risks and tradeoffs.
Re “being a single mother was badge of honour only empowered, strong & independent women wore”
This is not a tea party radio call in show, this is the real world. While you may consider yourself and your precious manly resources at some risk in agreeing to marry and have kids with some greedy, sharp kneed woman, in most real world circumstances a desirable woman is not going to waste her time with some man child moaning about the huge risk he is taking in marrying. She wants a real man whose is ready to commit to a relationship.
Undertaking getting pregnant and raising a family is a huge risk for a woman. If that’s not your kettle of fish and you are saving your money for more Warhammer figurines, a better gaming headset or a new motorbike having a family is probably not your best move.
Lots of shaming language … yet no substance to why marriage as an institute is worth anything or why commitment to a woman is worth anything in the current social structure. Heck, we got folks going on about of Paternity tests are evil and disadvantage women .
I guess, some men just want everyone to suffer as they have, well I for one am not falling for your sketchy tactics.
Plus whats so special about pregnancy anyways? 1/2 the population is purpose built for it. Yet the sirens of how big of deal it is never cease. Its like buying a LCD Television but instead of displaying Video, the LCD TV just shows snippets of how difficult it is to be an LCD TV.
Susanann:
If todays young people, and in particular the male, are already living together and having sex, then what real life changing difference does it make in getting a piece of paper from the government? I dont really see how things will change much by getting that piece of paper if you are already living together and already share a home together.
I am not cynical, I just dont understand why 2 people today who are already living together and who are already living in a sexual relationship find that they need to get a piece of paper from the government?
There is also the fact that once you get that piece of paper the government has much more power to intervene in your affairs. When you break up your assets and childcare abilities are to a large degree distributed by the government, which is not something a lot of people are wanting.
Doggo
May 11, 2013, 11:51am
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IMO, once they invent 100% realistic sex androids, the number of men wanting to get married will fall drastically.