I get the impression that neither Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton is particularly religious, so why do they think that one of them will be more respecting of the Christian faith of these voters? (And actually both candidates chose as their running mates men who are much more overtly religious than they are.)
Actually, I have been led to believe that Hillary’s extensive public service has been motivated by her Methodist upbringing. I have also read that she carries a bible and attends prayer breakfasts with Republicans. Low key, but does the walk.
These people are only socially/culturally Christians. They don’t actually follow any of the ideas or precepts that Jesus espoused.
You know, feeding and clothing the poor, healing the sick, loving their neighbors as their selves. Oh, and this little bit;
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward. But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard.…
Oh no, they need to force people, including non-Christians, to pray in public as often as possible to show how “Christian” they are. :rolleyes:
If that’s true, it would deepen my respect for her. Some politicians and celebrities make a show of proclaiming their piety and then some of them commit adultery, or fuck around or otherwise display hypocrisy. Mel Gibson, for example, who was so fervently Catholic that he established his own church that was more strict than the Roman Catholic Church. And then he strayed outside marriage, got divorced and had an out-of-wedlock baby with his Russian supermodel girlfriend.
We have two candidates running for President. One of them has promised to place sweeping restrictions on a particular religion. Granted, the religion in question isn’t Christianity but this candidate wants to give the government the power to restrict religion and you can’t tell what religions might be targeted by that power in the future.
Matt Lauer asks that question at about the 6:10 point. After Pence’s long (> 1 minute) response, the dish* hits him with (paraphrased), “So why don’t you forgive Hillary?”.
I just happened to see part of this interview on my way out of the door this morning. I wouldn’t have given it much thought if i hadn’t seen your post.
Meanwhile, here’s another way a sincere Christian might respond to the Donald Trump candidacy:
[QUOTE=Senator Cory Booker, D-NJ]
I love you Donald. I pray for you. I hope that you find some kindness in your heart that you’re not going to be somebody that spews out insults to your political opposition - that you’re going to start finding some ways to love… I love you. I just don’t want you to be my president.
[/QUOTE]
You can forgive somebody from here to Galilee, but if you want him to be President, and claim it’s because you’re a Christian, you still have to make a case for why people (Christians in particular) should vote for him. Mike Pence… has not done this, in my opinion. But to be fair, I’m not sure it’s possible with his chosen candidate.
If it is one’s core belief that abortion is murder and absolutely the single most important issue to take a stand on, I can at least understand you’ll vote for anyone that will appoint a supreme court justice that is anti abortion.
If one is a self styled Christian that believes women are subservient to men (like by brother and his wife), well maybe they can reconcile that with Trump support. And it’s likely that these folks view abortion as murder.
If one falls anywhere on the love thy neighbor as thyself Christian spectrum, then I absolutely cannot understand support Trump. YMMV.