I loved the way Dave Allen told it.
After the set up Jesus said “let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” Jesus looks up and exasperatedly says: “Mommy… Put. That. Rock. Down!.”
That sounds an awful lot like “the ends justify the means”
Maybe but I also think a lot of his supporters are of the anyone but Hillary ilk.
Yeah, there was a recent poll where 84% of Trump voters believed Hillary should be in jail.
As I keep saying, 25 years of being told she’s Beelzebub in Pant Suits, but never being able to come up with one single charge that sticks, they’re just not going to let it go. Hence the Trumpian “When I’m elected I’ll put her in jail.” To some people it doesn’t matter how much a flaming shit biscuit he is otherwise, he’s promising to give them what has long eluded them.
Sounds about right 
Shouldn’t it be “Let HIM who is without sin…”?
Bingo.
It’s always possible, I’m sure, for the Lord to work good through evil persons. But if he does so, that’s because he can, and he can see how to bring about good through the actions of someone evil.
But those of us who aren’t privy to such divine plans - IOW, all of us - have no business empowering evil persons just on the off-chance that the Lord, unbeknownst to us, will cause good to come of it.
As Paul said, “Should we sin all the more, that grace might abound all the more? By no means!”
Is this a whoosh or unintentionally hilarious? Haven’t had coffee yet so the neurons are firing a little slow. But “loving the sin” does seem to describe a lot of your more overtly religious politicians.
Where was this argument when we were talking about wedding cakes for gays? I thought Jesus wanted us to stymie the promulgation of sin, even if that means denying services to people whose only offense is loving someone of the same sex. I distinctly remember seeing “Let he who is without…” being hand-waved by several posters (you included) as liberal misinterpretation the last time this topic was debated on this board. So what gives?
It’s insane that Trump–a philanderer at best, a pathologically lying traitorous rapey con man at worst–is supposed to be the chosen recipient of Christian forgiveness and trust now. Forget about calling this hypocritical. Christians who subscribe to this garbage while eagerly turning their noses up at the powerless “freaks” that live among them are criminally moronic. If this election permanently relegates them to the dunce corner, they only have themselves to blame.
Thank you. Jesus would have used proper grammar.
As someone who has lived several years with Pence as governor of my state all I can say is that this sort of thing is feature of Pence. He’ll get all up in a bother about something or other and bray about how “Christian” he is, do things that hurt other people in the name of his religion, then turn around and ignore other things that blatantly contradict what he has stated he values.
He’s a two-faced power-grabbing politician desperate to ride Trump’s coattails because back home he was facing a recall petition and had little chance of winning a second term as governor. The liberals in this state (yes, we have a few!) hate him for his bigotry and the Christian nutjobs hate him for his hypocrisy.
Hilary would allow other people to openly practice their non-Christian religions without interference, which a certain variety of Christian views as somehow oppressing Christians. Apparently freely practicing their version of Christianity requires freely oppressing other people. :rolleyes:
Which, I’m told by most Christians I’ve known, is NOT a feature of Christianity and totally doesn’t jibe with what I’ve read in the Bible myself.
It’s perfectly proper Jacobean English, the type Jesus spoke.
That’s what I figured all along. A phoney and a hypocrite.
Exactly and literally (right down to the commas) in the King James version - the only TRUE version
Okay, but seriously, folks:
[QUOTE=John 8:7, KJV]
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
[/QUOTE]
And, verilly, it came to pass that single stone flew from the crowd, and rent her skull asunder. And the Lord cried out in a loud voice “Dammit, Mom!”.
Like what is involved in “being Christian first”, most people’s memory of Bible quotes is muddled at best, based on long ago half remembered unattentive Sunday School lessons, the versions repeated in TV shows and movies, and what their latest trending preacher has told them it is.
To put it simply, sometimes “Christian First” means “Christians First”.
And what exactly does that mean?
Do they get to the lifeboats first?
When Cthulhu comes, are they the first to be eaten?
WHAT does it actually mean?