I'm failing my teaching internship

I’m student teaching right now as well; I’m in a blue-collar area & the population is pretty ethnically diverse. Oh, I teach 7th grade English, so at least you & I have content area in common.

I’m not sure what the deal is with your cooperating/mentor teacher; I would hope that cooperating teachers would…ahhh…cooperate.

I had difficulty planning - I still do, to a lesser extent; I’ve been teaching for almost eight weeks. I think that in my case, it comes down to feeling a bit overwhelmed - there’s so much going on that there seems to be little time to get it all done. Also, I know it can be uncomfortable to ask for pointers, but maybe what you can do is ask the teacher to observe you one period a day & make a T-chart of the positives and negatives - that’s what my cooperating teacher does. If yours won’t do this or something similar, talk to your supervisor.

As for the building of rapport & the relating to the students: Do you give the students “Do Now” activities for the start of each class? It seems to be a rule of thumb in a lot of my local schools. I’ve found those activities to be a good way to get the kids talking about themselves while sticking to the aim and objectives of the lesson.

And my favorite - big words. I use big words as well, and sometimes the kids don’t understand what I mean. However, I just write the word on the board and explain what I mean.

If you want to bounce ideas off me, maybe help each other plan, dash off an e-mail.

Make sure you understand what each of the critisisms mean. When they say you don’t plan well, what is it you aren’t doing that you should be. Now that you have been on your feet a bit, go back and see if you can watch other teachers. There is so much you can learn from observing, after you have taught for a bit that you would have never noticed beforehand.

The one thing you need to do is sit down and figure out why you want to do this. Do you like the kids? If you don’t have that figure out what else you can do with that diploma. My advisor used to say that the kids can tell if you are for them or against them. If you aren’t for them; Get Out. If you are in it for your content area and not the kids, in the long run or even in the short run, it will not be enough.

Good luck either way.

Hi wmulax93! I teach first grade, so I don’t think I have much advice to offer in relation to your grade level or content area. I would, though, be happy to offer some advice on the planning part. I’ve had three student teachers in the last three years with varying degrees of engagement (from mere observer to team teaching), plus I still vividly remember my own tenure as a student teacher.

If you’d like, I’d be happy to offer some help, if you could be more specific as to what you need in your plans. My email is in my profile.

Don’t let them get your back up and drive you to give up on something you want to do. I agree that it’s best to keep quiet when you’re being critiqued-- pretend that you’re just the best, most earnest little student teacher they’ve ever seen when they grace you with their knowledge (because there’s a chance they might know what they’re talking about even if their skills at imparting that knowledge doth suck). Get what you came there for and go on to glory.

Some things I’ve noticed about myself and/or collegues that might help: yes, it bugs me that I can’t use words like ‘difficult’ and have to say ‘hard’ instead, but this is the reality of where I teach. Over time, I’ve gotten better at using simpler words at the beginning of the year and introducing more advanced vocabulary after a few weeks. Remember that the kids may not have stellar vocab, but they could still be brilliant. Try not to be more in love with how you teach than what you teach.

The first weeks I’m trying to let the kids know I’m a professional, but human. They’ve already got a ton of friends, they don’t need one in their teacher. Be somewhat friendly, as fair as possible, and always firm. Eventually relate to them on something though, and if you can’t, ask about them whenever you have a couple of minutes at the end of the period or when you’re circulating during an activity. If you met their mom, ask how she’s doing. Does the cafeteria food bite today? Admire a new backpack, tell them you like the poster they did for another class, something. Some kids will let you know they don’t want to interact and that’s okay as long as you’re connecting to most of them some of the time (it’s a good control tool because it’s harder to be mean to a teacher who seems so 3-dimensional). Take small steps on this one until you become more sure.

Observe other teachers and not just those in your subject area. Talk to the teachers who hang out in the lounge before school and at lunch. Ask questions, listen, take notes, plan your day out minute by minute. And don’t look down on subbing, it was the single most useful experience I was able to bring to my first year of teaching (I wish I could have subbed before student teaching).

Just to one up you on the misery of student teaching-- my first semester was at a middle school (6-9th) in a hellacious area. I didn’t get to the site on time because the road leading to the school was blocked by police, because a man and his wife were car jacked and shot execution-style not an hour before. My first day the teacher wasn’t even there, and hadn’t been for weeks. I took over the class after the sub watched me take attendance and then disappeared the rest of the day. The mentor teacher spoke to me twice, the entire semester, and was in the class with me once for about five minutes when she came in to find something in her desk. She then had the gall to say I was ‘above average’ when it came time for reviews. Luckily my college’s teacher coordinator knew what was really going on (like my students swept their category at the district art exhibition, and we put out a dandy yearbook on time and under budget, thank you very much).

You can do this. You might not like it at first, but you can do it.

Trust me. I am a teacher in an urban high school. The last thing you want to do is pretend you are from their world. They will see through you in a minute and you will also lose whatever respect they had for you in the first place. You have some legitimate complaints in your post, but it really seems that you might not be cut out for teaching. The last thing these kids need is another crappy teacher.

This all sounds like great advice, but I have to admit that I had a kneejerk response to the statement that ‘the kids’ “already got a ton of friends.” A teacher should be fair, firm, and approachable/friendly, I agree. But sometimes I think a teacher needs to be a friend, especially to a kid who doesn’t have any friends.

On preview, I think that Frostillicus might be going a little overboard. You could be a fantastic teacher in the right environment, wmulax93.
[sub]You very well may suck, too, but I think that realistic optimism is more called for.[/sub]

Being a friend to their students works for some teachers. Problem is, I’ve seen a lot of teachers go down in flames trying to do this. It’s not an easy trick, especially for newbies. My thought is better safe than sorry (though I’d never leave a kid in need out in the cold). Friendly but not their buddy.

Being a teacher–a good one, anyway–is all about recognizing the difference betwee intellectual authority and arrogance, and tailoring your delivery so that it resonates with students and some actual learning can get done. So if the kids aren’t going to respond to a particular bearing (and yes, “mediocre” is a big word to people who aren’t necessarily doing a lot of reading or other scholarly activities outside of school), you have to take it down a notch to something they can relate with. You can wish that it were otherwise, but as they say, if wishes were horses…

The primary objective is to educate people, and that means taking them from where they are to where you want them to be. You can’t start from a level they’re not on.

By the way, I’m not saying that that is in any way an easy task. I’m certainly no good at it, and am not willing to devote myself to learning–and that’s the primary reason I steered myself away from teaching early on even though the field appeals to me in theory.

wmulax93, I understand what you are going through.

I was student teaching in a 5th grade class in Battle Creek, MI, about 10 years ago. Eventhough it was a 5th grade class, I had the same exact problems you did… Planning skills suffered, couldn’t relate to the students, teacher-mentor always seemed to be very adversarial with me. I would ask what I needed to do to improve and she would say, “I don’t know. You just have to work harder at it.” So she was no help.

I did everything that Long Time First Time suggested. I tried to ask questions and get feedback, but by that time my mentor-teacher had already made up her mind and that I was going to fail. Better help and feedback from her from the start would have made a world of difference in my performance, but that never happened and I failed my student teaching internship.

I don’t think that you are being a snotty little asswipe. I think that you have some issues that your teacher-mentor really needs to work on with you. Unfortunately the teacher-mentor has already made up her mind about you and that will be next to impossible to change.

I think you should really look at this and decide if it’s really what you want to do. In my heart, because of that bad 1st experience, I knew I didn’t want to get in front of kids again like that, but I talked myself into trying it again with a different teacher-mentor anyways. What a mistake that was. I failed miserably again.

So I reiterate. Decide if this is really what you want to do. If you really don’t think you can see yourself doing this, then quit now and save yourself the stress and heartache that I went through… twice!

E-mail me if you want to talk about this. I really can empathize with you because I’ve been through it all.

On the friend vs. respect bit: I’ve graduated from college and I still keep in touch with my favorite teacher from high school. (A paper is just not complete until I’ve gotten his comments on it. I bought presents for his wife and son when I went traveling.) His wife hugs me in the grocery store and I address his wife and son by diminutive versions of thier first names.

I can’t use his first name. He’s still Mr. Teacher.

Inner city school teaching is tough, the kids have a lot going on. Mr. Teacher does a survey each year on his freshman class to get an idea of what they deal with on a regular basis. Last I checked, 50% of them had an immediate family member in prison. These kids are not worried about grades, they are worried about survival. I don’t have much to say that I think will help, I know I could never teach in that environment - but if you can, no one needs it more than those kids. A good teacher can show them the way out of that mess. The best teachers I had all had different ways of dealing with it, different ways of widening the horizons past the little dangerous world we were in. You have to find one that works for you.

A few comments, since I am in my second year of teacher training (the system is different in Denmark). I’m at high school level, but I think our situations are somewhat similar anyway…

First year I had supervisors, who would watch my classes and comment on them… much like it sounds like your supervisor’s supposed to.

First point:
During the first year, a lot of classes will not go as you planned. That does not mean you’re a bad teacher, it means you have to adjust to the level you’re teaching at.

Second point:
Using words too often that the pupils don’t know steers the focus away from the actual point you’re trying to get across. Sure it could be viewed as dumbing down your language, but keep in mind you also learned the simple words before you learned the fancier synonyms - and having several words to describe a thing can be confusing at first, so for your pupils sake: keep it simple.

Third point:
I know when I started teaching all I could do was just keep up to beat with my classes this week - planning ahead was not an option. However, if it’s required of you, make a plan. Present it to your class, let them know that it might change as you’re willing to go with the flow and pick up inspiration from them - but for them it’s nice to have an idea of what they’re working towards. Will also be a form of contract - your supervisor will not be able to change it without the pupils noticing.

Fourthly:
Take your complaints about your supervisor to someone at school. Also tell her (don’t ask, tell her) that if you’re going to learn to be a teacher she has to step down - her butting in on your classes just take credibility and respect away from you.

Hope it helps (and that it was relevant - why am I always uncertain?).
-Tikster

Teaching at rough high schools is not something everyone can do. Even hard work and dedication can’t make up for some things.

I went to one of these schools. We wern’t dumb kids. We knew the education system had screwed us over, and we were ready to screw them all right back. New teachers rarely lasted the year. Even our subs wouldn’t come back. We could sense weakness, and when we did, we used that to personally break down our teachers. I’m not proud of the fact that I’ve seen a good variety of my teachers in tears.

Our favorite vicitims? Starry-eyed fresh out of school suburban teachers with all these great ideas about how they are going to bring light in to the darkness and all that. Teachers that drove SUVs, had pretty wives, and named their kids “Caitlyn”. Teachers that looked around stunned, searching for some pre-scripted plan they learned in school whenever we made a little chaos. We hated them because their normalicy seemed like a joke compared to our lives. We hated them because we knew their hypocracy- they would never dream of sending their kids to our school. They would probably mumble about “safety” when contemplating buying a house in our zipcode.

And we chewed them up and ate them for dinner.

The teachers we loved were the old timers that snuck rum in their morning coffee and told us old war stories. The total wierdos that covered the ceiling with movie posters and made it okay to be late if you brought him donuts and kept asking us to fix him up with our mothers. The history teacher that tried to relate every lesson to pizza. The ones that have been around the world. The ones that get calles from their creditors during class. The ones that come to school on recumbant bicycles, beater cars and on the bus. The obviously gay ones with pictures of the president in bondange on the buillitan board.

A good way to build a relationship with the kids can be to get them to give examples. Also, when you have any kind of written test (or graded homework), copy a few examples in another page and go through them with the students. Make sure you don’t always pick stuff from a tiny group of people, but also that you don’t leave out the best student just because he is the best student!
Make a note who you copied it from, so that other students get to comment on it first: the person who wrote it already knows what it means.

These are things that worked well with several teachers who were new in my school. No inner city anything here, but even the dimmest bulb had a tongue sharp enough to bore holes in concrete. I know of at least one teacher who got fired because she wasn’t able to control my 10th grade classroom.

even sven, that is one of my favorite SDMB posts ever! I’ve made a copy to keep. It’s a treasure.

wmulax93, do some thinking about what you have in common with these students. There are some basic needs that are common to us all.

Ask the students how you can reach them better. You may have to disguise the subject a little bit. Choose a poem with a theme that can lead to a discussion of something that ties in with “getting what you need from life” or something along those lines. Steer the discussion toward getting the most from school and…

They are usually happy to talk about how a class can be made better.

You get the general iidea.

Let the kids teach you how to teach them.

I’m not trying to be a pessimist here… really, I’m not. :slight_smile:

But it has been my experience that once you have shown you can be walked over by the class you will never gain their respect. I’ve been through what wmulax is going through right now. When I did my student teaching, I did exactly as you suggested, Zoe and took some time to ask the class what I could do to make the class better. I asked them what I could do to be a better teacher. Their response was, “Uh… I don’t know. Your an ok teacher, I guess.” But then they would turn around and be ungodly little beasts.

I think wmulax’s situation won’t be much different. The precident has already been set that they will act a certain way around him. When directely asked for feedback on his teaching, they won’t have much to offer him because they can’t give him specifics to improve upon. They’re students. They don’t know what specific things can be done to make him a better teacher. That is the job of his teacher-mentor (and that person is doing a lousy job of providing that feedback, hence his problem).

Respect and trust of the students is what he will ultimately have to work on, IMHO, and it will take A LOT of effort on his part to gain their respect and trust. With the time he has left there, it may not be possible to do that.

Again, I’m really not trying to be pessimistic. I’m trying to offer a realistic view of what to expect.

What the teacher asks:

What the students hear:

Chances of that working = 0
I think wmulax93 has a hard task ahead and may not possess the necessary tools. A teacher needs to be a salesman. In other words they have to manipulate (pursuade) people. wmulax93 has demonstrated a lack of this trait in not having the ability to “work” her students nor mentor.

It may be a good idea to focus on how the kids are doing. Are they learning? Does your mentor teacher do a good job of teaching?

Teaching is a very hard field and this may be a sign that it isn’t a good match for you.