I'm graduating in 11 months. Financial tips?

So, I’m gonna be finished with my undergrad degree in December, graduating a semester early. I’m working a lot now, could probably even graduate over the summer if I wanted to spend the money on it, but I figured I’d stick around another semester and get my last few credits while working just as much as I am now. It’ll give me some cushion for when I get done and feel like I can’t find a job for a few months. Of course, I’m planning to be applying for positions my last semester, but finding a job is no guarantee.

Does anyone have some nice financial tips/advice/wise words of wisdom for when they first started out? I’ve managed to dodge loans for the last few years (and I’m endlessly grateful that I have), but it may not be the case for my final semester. I’ve heard the idea that you should have 6 months’ worth of savings to support you if things go awry, and I’m definitely aiming for that.

ETA: Not really planning for grad school right out of the gate. I’d much prefer to work a little while and see if I really want to go that route. I’m in the technology sector.

Of course old Polonius was a grinch and the modern world demands rampant consumerism of its citizenry.

Stay away from credit cards. Forever and always.

Live below your means. Pretend that about 25% of your paycheque just doesn’t exist and put it away for your future/a rainy day.

Don’t get too much credit out of the gate but do get a credit card (that you pay off every month) to build your credit rating.

Hate to say he’s wrong; but he is. You need some credit should your ever, say, want to qualify for a mortgage or car loan. Also, your interest rates on those bigger purchases will be lower if your credit is better.

Just never, EVER carry a balance.

I agree with this. 25% may be difficult for a lot of people these days, but save something.

Wait, there is an exception. Splurge with that first big paycheck. Get it out of your system. But after that, save.

Agreed on the credit card- get one, use it sparingly, and pay it off every month. Disciplined use of a credit card proves you are a good credit risk, and you want that.

When you get a job, if you are offered the opportunity to contribute to a 401(k), contribute the maximum you are able to and still pay your bills each month; at the very least, contribute enough to qualify for the employer match (if there is one). It’s free money. Then every year increase your percentage slightly. It’s amazing how your accumulated contributions will grow the earlier you start making them.

Every few months, splurge on something (reasonable) for yourself. It will help avoid the feeling that you never have an extra cent to spend on yourself, and you’ll make yourself feel good. Then go back to saving.

Credit card that you pay off every month is fine, and as has been mentioned a good credit rating saves you money. A credit card also makes it easier to shop online, and that can save a fair amount of money if you don’t abuse it. It can also be useful for unexpected expenses…as long as that is not “trip to Bahamas because Bill was going, and it sounded fun.”

Too many people increase their expenses to match their income. Avoid the temptation to spend on flashy cars, the biggest house you can qualify for, etc. and you will end up with far less stress than those who live paycheck-paycheck, and when that layoff notice comes it will still be bad, but it will be much easier not to panic if you have some savings.

On occasional splurging: If you get paid every two weeks, there will be two occasions where you have three paychecks/month each year. If you scale your expenses and savings so that two checks cover everything, then those can be nice for “mad money”. Also IRS refunds.

Agreed, get a good rewards credit card and use it all the time, but only for things you would have used cash for, NOT things you wouldn’t have been able to buy outright. Don’t get in the habit of revolving a balance.

You’re young enough to ride out some bumps in your 401(k), so go heavy in equities.

Thanks for the quick replies and advice, everyone :slight_smile:

I do have one credit card I actively use, and one other one that I don’t use at all (and might wanna get rid of, honestly, although I’ve only had it about two months and it’s store-specific for a place I don’t shop at much).

I’ll definitely try to put away a certain amount of each paycheck. Just gotta figure out how much at some point. It’s taking my on-campus work a while to get back to normal after the holiday season, with stuff being closed.

If it’s not causing problems, don’t close it. Closing an account can hurt the utilization component of your credit score. Plus, a big factor is the age of your accounts, and there’s no need to throw away a two-month head start.

The simple way to handle a credit card: Never charge anything unless you already have the money in the bank to pay for it. Then use that money to pay off the card. Credit card interest is absurd. It’s no way to finance anything.

Aim for it and succeed at it, but it’s outdated advice. Current advice is 6-12 months of after tax savings, and some are now suggesting 12-18 months of after tax savings. You will be hard-pressed starting out to build up to a six month cushion, but do it anyway. The earlier in your career you build in a savings attitude, the better off you will be. You do not have to be frugal, but it helps. :slight_smile:

The 25 percent number someone up thread posted is a very, very good attitude. It’s money taken off the top of your net income from every paycheck, all the time. Yo be surprised at the amount of cash you fritter away on a weekly basis, most often just to be seen as going with the flow of others. Well, others don’t pay your bills.

This is not your father’s economy, or even your grandfather’s economy. It’s going to be shitty for a considerable portion of your life because (IMHO) the economy is fundamentally fractured.

Good advice given above. A few more things to note:

Automatic savings are the best (and by far the easiest) kind of savings. Many employers will direct deposit your paycheck into multiple accounts. If you set it up right, you never even see the money going to your savings and retirement accounts. Even if you start by having only $25 out of each paycheck go to a savings account, it will add up.

Youth is on your side. Because of the miracle of compounding, money saved today is worth far, far more in your retirement than money saved 20 years from now. Remember that if you start to think that you should be splurging now.

If you can somehow find a way to mentally set aside any money that you have spent on a credit card, so that when the bill comes it is already waiting to be paid out, it will make your financial life much easier. I use an old-fashioned paper check register and subtract out the credit amounts as if they were checks, but I’m sure you can find a more high-tech way to do it.

As long as you have enough money to pay the bills and set aside some for savings and some for retirement each month, it’s fine to also set aside some each month for mad money. That way you can splurge occasionally on something fun, but not have to fear running out of money for necessities.

If you don’t have an employer-sponsored 401(k), consider opening a Roth IRA. You can accumulate money tax-free, and most importantly, you can take the money out in retirement without paying any tax. It is simple to open a Roth at any reputable online broker. Also, any money you put into a Roth (but not the accumulated earnings) can be removed at any time without penalty. So it can serve as a backup emergency fund as well, although you should only use it as a last resort.

Finally, remember the advice of Mr. Micawber (David Copperfield):

Credit cards: as said, never owe money on them. Looking around for a free one with rewards. If you will never run a balance, you don’t care about the interest rate. Last year we put new floors on our Discover Card, paid it off immediately, and got over $500 cashback at the end of the year.

If you get a job with a 401K sign up for the maximum they will match immediately. You won’t see the money and won’t spend it, and in 40 years you will be very happy you did. (I am.)

Buy for yourself, not other people. A BMW doesn’t get you there any faster than a Prius. If you start off not spending money, you’ll keep not spending money. Splurge for what is important to you, but not just to do it. And only splurge if you have the money to do so.

And congrats on not having any loans. You already are on the right track.

Good ideas.

My suggestions in addition:

  1. When you set up your paycheck for direct deposit, split off a dollar amount that goes directly into savings instead of checking. You never see it in checking, you are less tempted to spend it.

  2. Each time you get a raise or a bonus, increase the dollar amount going into savings - ideally to match. After all, you were living fine on what you got before the raise, right?

If you need more money to live, change the amount going into savings - but think about it first.

  1. At some point, start investing in simple, low cost things like index funds (check out Vanguard). Consider routing your savings to the investment account and let some sit in a money market account (about as good as a savings account these days) and with the rest, make regular purchases of a fund or two. This is called dollar cost averaging and it is an easy way to invest.

  2. This last one is the important one - save for retirement early - compound interest is powerful. At forty-five, I was stunned to learn that had I maxed out an IRA between ages 20 and 30 and then stopped, I would have had more money at 65 than if I had started at 30 and continued until 65.

If your employer offers to match retirement contributions, do not give up that free money. Once you are able, max out your yearly contribution to the retirement plan.

Do these and you stand a very good chance of being rich at retirement.

One more that isn’t usually included in financial planning, but gets people in as much trouble as anything else:

Never loan mony to anyone unless you would be comfortable giving it as a gift. Consider loaned money to be spent money.

And the corollary: never co-sign a loan for anyone unless you would be comfortable paying off the balance in full by yourself.

Ah yes. Good advice.

Things siblings and step-kids have messed up:

  • no money left to pay taxes
  • taking a 401k loan (never do that) then losing job (must pay it all back or pay fines & tax)
  • ‘helping’ a Nigerian… (Really)
  • short sale that omitted the second mortgage
  • co-signed a loan for a very good friend (who walked away)

Wife and I ended up helping with all, but will never see a penny back.
In another thread, I saw a great comment

“Learn to tell what you want - not what others want you to want.”

(Every time I take my car in for service they want me to buy a new one. I want to keep driving the one I bought from them 21 years ago.)

Budget based on how much money you make, not on how other people like you seem to spend. It’s really easy when you have your first job and you are trying to figure out what you can afford to look around and see what is “normal”. So it looks like everyone else goes out to eat lunch every day, has a decent new car, whatever, you think of that as the standard. But you never know other people’s finances: Suzie eats lunch out everyday, but eats rice and beans for dinner and breakfast. Bob has a late model car, but he took the bus for two years to save for it–you just didn’t know him then. Frank has nice suits, but he has a rich uncle who passes them on. And Jenny travels, but she never mentions the “drowning in debt” part.

Related to this is a weird little confirmation bias cognitive mistake thingy: you see people spending money, you don’t see them not spending money, because they are at home. You feel like your friends can go out drinking whenever they want to, because when they feel like they can’t afford it, they don’t say “no, I’m over my entertainment budget this month” they say “I have a family thing”. It seems like everyone else can afford a “nice” vacation once a year, because those that don’t, don’t mention that they aren’t going anywhere. You don’t see people not having cable, not eating out, not going to the movies. So your brain feels like everyone does all of these things all of the time, and they make what you make. So you can afford it too. But none of them do all of these things; they all do some combination.

Last, watch your spending at the grocery store. I think this is the one place where people most underestimate what they spend. It’s easy to feel like the whole grocery store is in the “needs” category, not the “wants” category, and the little upgrades seem really small, in the big picture: fancy mustard is much better, for a $1 more. Might as well pick up a bag of chips. That kind of thing. No one decision is hugely expensive, but you end up at the grocery store all the damn time, so it has the opportunity to add up. At the very least, I would keep a running tally of all grocery store totals for each month and see what it adds up to. This can creep up and suddenly you are like 'Why don’t I have money? Nothing has changed?"

Learning to monitor the sales papers and shape your weekly shopping around them can lead to huge savings, especially in combination with knowing how to cook.

One last thing: when saving, think in terms of months of expenditures saved, not months of income. If you make $3000/month and spend $2000/month, then if you have $12,000 in the bank, that’s 6 months’ savings, not four. Thinking about it this way is more accurate, and it really incentivizes you to lower your monthly spending because you benefit twice: savings go up faster, and it feels like more of an accomplishment.

I have to add to the chorus. Always pay off your credit card balance immediately. Make that an inviolable rule (I always just use Amex).

It is SO easy to slide down the slippery slope when credit cards open the window to purchasing things you wouldn’t otherwise be able to immediately. “Wow, that was easy.”

I word it this way to friends who ask for similar advice then push back on this as impractical because sometimes, “they just need stuff.” You want to get the most stuff, the absolutely highest volume of stuff you possibly can, with the money you earn? Don’t charge anything (or pay it off immediately). In the long term, you end up with the most stuff!