But I’m not worried about Hillary. It’s Obama that I’m actually looking out for.
As an aside- don’t you love how the classical male insults (SOB and bastard) still end up insulting women (the mother is a bitch or morally loose)?
How else do we insult men that is gender specific- dick-face etc?
Just found that interesting.
I’d say “Machiavellian” is a good fit for her, but it’s too polysyllabic for casual conversation, and I always have to check the spelling.
Off the top of my head, dick, numbnuts, asshole, and loser are all male-gendered insults. There’s actually a somewhat robust academic literature on the subject.
The simple truths are that sometimes calling Hillary a “bitch” is an expression of misogynist rage, and sometimes no. There is a lot of misogynist rage toward her, and a lot of justified dislike.
Well, last I checked chicks had assholes and could be losers too. 
Dick I got, so to speak, but numbnuts was not one I thought of though.
I’d always liked Hillary, more or less, but my opinion of her has declined steadily since it became clear that she would not win the nomination easily, as she’d expected, and I watched her campaign’s reaction to that over the last six weeks or so.
I don’t consider that “bashing.”
Of course, and some people may even use the language that way. But apparently most people don’t. I wasn’t being sarcastic when I said there is literature on this. A little googling and you can read a dozen abstracts from psychological, sociological, and linguistics journals.
Hillary is a fucking dick! I absolutely loath that motherfucking prick and cringe every time he launches into one of his insane rants.
Glad to help. 
I’ll give you dick, but how often is a politician called “numbnuts”?
I don’t agree that loser is all that male-specific. I think males are more often called that because standards for females are set so low, but I don’t think that necessarily makes it a masculine insult. Donald calls Rosie a loser all the time.
OK- I knew you weren’t kidding about the literature! I find this stuff facinating!
So I think I understand the mixup-
When you say “gender specific” you mean- “used almost exclusively against one gender” (ie one rarely calls a girl an asshole- ).
When I said “gender specific” I meant “using a specific aspect of ones gender as the insult” (cunt, bitch-femine adjective, dick).
Does that sound right?
I am a government employee, and therefore cannot endorse or campaign for ANY candidate, Democratic or Republican. Besides which, I am registered Independent and therefore have no say either way in our Pennsylvania closed primaries. I am hoping for a particular candidate to win, though, and while I don’t like or hope for that candidate’s opponent to win the nomination, I am somewhat disturbed when that candidates supporters use unpleasant epithets for that candidate’s opponent. Geez…I’m confusing myself with the circumlocutions.
I don’t like when my candidate’s supporters use unpleasant epithets to refer to HIS opponent. Blast her for her policy positions. Blast her for her unpopularity with the general public. Blast her for being divisive and likely to attract twice as many Republicans to the polls just to vote against her. But don’t call her names, either “bitch” or “Billary” or anything else like that. Vilifying her verbally is only going to help her defend herself. Neither Obama has called her anything like what her detractors are calling her. Don’t give her ammunition.
Yes, it’s historic that we actually have a halfway viable female candidate for president. I think it’s definitely past time to have a woman president. Just not this woman.
And now I go back to being a suitably mute government functionary…
Yep.
I do think it’s interesting that, of all the candidates, she seems to generate headlines every time she so much as opens her mouth. The woman is living with a microscope up her ass. No wonder there’s so much hate. It’s fed constantly. Every damn day there’s something else to get outraged about over Hill. It sells papers, fills news shows, and is the raison d’etre for Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly. They should send her a nice fruit basket or something. “Thanks for the career!”
shrug No real point to this post, I guess, as I don’t see it stopping anytime soon. It’s like whining over Brittney Spears making headlines over going into rehab again. People read it, people like to get into a tizzy about it.
Calling a guy’s mother a whore is really only the 2nd worst, gender-specific way to insult him. the worst insult, of course, is to call him a homosexual…and usually not just a homosexual but a specifically receptive homosexual. What could be more degrading to a man than to be a passive sexual partner to another man? Why, that would make him almost exactly like a woman.
I know, it’s a shame since she is trying to lead such a private, quiet life.
Damn. Too late to edit again.
That Chronicle article was a big headline over “Obama wins Maine.” I mean really. Which is more important? A candidate winning a state, or a candidate getting annoyed over their kids being dragged into the fray?
Which is not to say that the kids shouldn’t be off limits; I remember a certain pair of twins that people got histrionic about 8 years ago.
Who said anything about that? Nice misrepresentation. I’m just noting that she gets more ink than any other candidate. You can go ahead and say “She asked for it! She’s Hillary Clinton!”, but seems pretty obvious that because of the hatred, she sells more papers/magazines/books than any of the other contenders. And the papers know that. They all ask for it. How many others are receiving it?
Oh goody, this’ll be fun. I just donated $100 to Obama’s campaign, and I set it up as a matching donation, so it will be doubled! Thanks for the motivation!
I am another Obama supporter who does not bash Hillary. In fact I only bashed Edwards (constantly, the cum stain that he is) and most of the Republicans candidates not named McCain.
I don’t like Hillary, but I chose to support Obama only after much research into the candidates positions, histories and records. There is also the inspirational speaker thing going on. Hillary often sounds like that annoying self-important PTA president that I am sure most of us have encountered and disliked. Obama sounds like someone that can inspire the nation and the world. I think we need that.
If Hillary wins the nomination, I will end up voting for her, but not because I like her. I will vote for her in hopes of balancing back out the Supreme Court a bit.
I like and respect McCain far more than Hillary, but then at heart, I am a fiscal conservative.
Jim
Could you remind me with a cite for this claim?
I would have thought that Obama and Edwards alone (not counting the fringe candidates) have garnered well over 50% support from Democratic primary voters thus far.
But yeah, I agree that Clinton and her handlers can be pummeled adequately enough without resorting to gutter epithets.