I didn’t say anything about Bob Dole’s ability to comment on Kerry, I was merely pointing out that Dole brags about his medals as much as Kerry does- once on his website. You have failed to support your contention that “Mr. Kerry continuously brags about the Purple Hearts he received for minor wounds.” That assertion is bullshit.
It’s also a lie that Kerry “parlayed” his wounds into a “ticket home.” It was SOP to ship out thrice wounded soldiers and Kerry, having a brain in his head, did not refuse it.
So yoou do feel qualified to mock the wouns of combat vets.
And hw about a cite for Kerry “continuously bragging” about his Purple Hearts?
No, dumbass. You put words into the OP’s mouth, turning her words into something they never were, thus creating the strawman. The OP at no point said that Iraq was incapable of democracy, she said, and I quote “We cannot convert an Islamic nation into democracy”. Notice the difference? The first is racist, the second is a logical truth - as Atticus said, democracy can only come at the behest of the people. If the people do not want it, then it won’t happen. The same would be true whatever was in place of the word ‘Islamic’, if the country did not have and did not want democracy.
Whatever Bush would like to think, Afghanistan is not yet a democracy and neither is Iraq. Proof perhaps that the people don’t want it?
Now go learn how to spell my name. It’s really not that tough.
You’re playing childing semantics. No, it’s not technically racism, but I think we all know and agree with what Debaser is calling out here; ignorant intollerance and hate for a religion. It’s not a strawman, the OP is clearly a delusional fucknut of the highest order who happens to hate Muslims, and you would think that once, just once, you could be mature enough to cross “party lines” and support condemning what we all understand fits in closely with “racism”.
Hey, stupid, ignorant fuck, how do you get “ignorant intolerance and hate for a religion” out of the phrase “Islamic country?”
How does religion have anything to do with race?
There is no bigotry to condemn in the OP. You are completely full of shit. The OP was absolutely correct that you cannot force an Islamic country (or any other historically theocratic and autocratic system) to become a democracy. There is nothing racist or anti-Muslim about that statement, so why don’t you cram your cheap, disingenuous race card up your fucking ass, m’kay?
As I mentioned above, you can’t force anyone to become a democracy, so the OP’s wrong there. She’s also wrong in that Iraq has never been an “Islamic country”, and does not have any history of theocracy.
That aside, if we rearrange the OP’s statement to get rid of these statements, to make it something like “A predominantly Muslim country cannot become a democracy”, that would clearly be a bigoted and stupid thing to say. I think you’re on shaky ground here, Dio.
I stuffed up there, allow me to correct this:
As I mentioned above, you can’t force anyone to become a democracy, so the OP’s correct there, if that’s what she’s saying. However, she’s wrong in that Iraq has never been an “Islamic country”, and does not have any history of theocracy.
Your post is probably one of the most insensitive ones that I have read , but I have no intention of changing your mind , or debating you on it.
You have probably insulted almost every person that wears the uniform , or has worn the uniform , in what ever branch of the service.
If there is any justice , then a relatiion of yours , son or daughter , grandson or grand daughter will join the military and become a hero to someone, maybe even you
Yea, Bob Dole “brags” on his medals, the only difference is that he was severely wounded and Kerry was just scratched. YOU might not see that as a difference, but I sure do.
Wait, I am confused. Did Kerry deserve a trip back to the USA because he was severely wounded, or did he simply “not refuse” a ticket home because it was available to him? You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth here.
I mock nothing. That implication is repugnaqnt to me. I honor every man and woman who has placed their life in danger for our country, including John Kerry, but when someone uses the technicality of being scratched thrice to run away when his fellow soldiers stayed and put their life on the line again and again, I have no qualms about pointing it out.
He’s mentioned it a dozen times in speaches in the last few months. It seems to me that he thinks I should consider it. Well, I am, and he’s come up lacking.
I have never once mentioned how “brave” or not I think John Kerry to be. This is a strawman of the highest order. You react strongly when someone tries to pull that shit on you, please do me the courtesy of not pulling it on me.
Neither did Bob Dole “frag himself”, as Fear Itself stated.
You know what I hate about you, DIO? It’s not that you’re stupid, although you give a good impersination of it, it’s that you are partisan to the point of ignoring reality. If John Kerry was captured on film fucking a dog, I have no doubt that you’d be here the next day trying to spin it as if he was just an animal lover. That’s simply pathetic.
Ypu have failed to support your assertion that Kerry “continuouisly brags” about his Purple Hearts.
And when you call his wounds “scratches,” you are mocking the wounds of a combat Vet. Please explain why being lucky enough not to get more seriously wounded makes a Purple Heart less honorable.
I’m saying he did not game the system as you suggested. He did not exploit his own injuries. Everyone with three PH’s went home. You seem to think there’s something wrong with that.
There you go mocking the wounds of a combat vet again. Do you have to get your underwear custom made to conatin your enormous balls?
So you say. I call bullshit. Show me some cites or shut the fuck up.
When you mock his wounds as “scratches” and insinuate that he did not have the right to be treated the same as every other thrice wounded soldier, it seems to me like you’re implying that Kerry’s service was less brave or less honorable than others unlucky enough to be more severely wounded.
Agreed. I have never denigrated Bob Dole’s service in any way.
I woukldn’t spin it, I just wouldn’t give a shit. A dog fucker would still be better than Bush.
Well if she meant that you cannot force any country, including Islamic ones, into democracy, I’ll agree, but as it stands, I’m pretty sure that she meant that Muslims simply aren’t capable of existing in a democracy, which is a statement that I find pretty ludicrous and I think can all find to be pretty pattently idiotic.
We’ll have to see what happens if she comes back. I doubt though that we’re going to seek the elucidation on this point that we’re seeking.
See www.dfas.mil. Look under E-1 (4 mos +) less than 2 years in service.
$1193.40 x 12 = less than $15k. This assumes that our young servicemember does not receive housing pay, but does receive housing and food from the service. It does not include any other allowances.