I'm sick of this Global Warming!

Here’s a link to a helpful post that explains some basic terms.

See? It’s not hard to explain shit, it really isn’t.

That’s one of the important questions.

Other ones are, “How much change will happen?”

“How quickly?”

And of course, “What can be done? And should we do it?”

And if you think you know all the answers, then the only question is, “How do we force everybody to do as we want?”. That’s always the really hard part.

The new Obama plan to curtail emissions … revolutionary or business-as-usual?

Here’s the AP story … actually a nice piece of journalism, maybe not completely balanced, but far better than most.

Using domestic coal was a major tenant of Reagan’s Energy Plan … is it time yet to say it was completely wrong?

It was wrong

Are you being serious or are you trolling?

I’m certainly not trolling, so many claims of ill-effects due to global warming are made without consideration as to where the energy comes from they tend to become total bullshit … hypercanes will never happen … positive feedbacks loops, ridiculous. I’m just simply asking the question, how are the energies involved conserved?

If Knorf dishes out snarkiness, he should expect snarkiness right back.

The Sun?

Human’s burning fossil fuels does not effect the solar atmosphere, nor the radiative flux she produces. If you’re trying to trap me in a lie, please consider cosmic rays in the upper part of Earth’s atmosphere.

You’re right! Not only is it a liberal conspiracy to create world government, but it is a perpetual motion machine to boot! You should publish a paper in Nature. Or Science.

Or the Onion.

They affect the earth’s atmosphere, which can trap more (or less) energy received from the sun on the basis of chemical composition.

I can’t believe you don’t know this. You can’t rebut something that millions of college professors accept, using only junior-high-school level science.

You sound like a 1970s creationist, trying to argue that evolution violates the laws of thermodynamics. This argument is so stupid, even Answers in Genesis has asked people to stop using it.

As long as we’re clear that energy is conserved in the Earth’s atmosphere, billions of people understand there’s no nuclear reactions going on in our atmosphere. The actual AGW theory doesn’t violate the Laws of Thermodynamics, so if you’re preaching hypercanes and hockey sticks, you’d be using some other theory.

Energy is not conserved in the earth’s atmosphere. It can get hotter, by trapping heat, in which case it is taking in more energy than it lets go again.

You appear to be hellishly ignorant regarding the foundations of science. Graduate from high school and then come back.

Oh boy, this thread just got interesting again! You have 'em on the ropes, watchwolf49, don’t let up!

I’m not looking back so I may be mistaken but I think this kid posted in this thread some time ago unclear of what the most basic scientific terms meant. Like theory and hypothesis.

Wait, so this whole time you’ve been operating under the assumption that there is no possible mechanism for net energy input or output in the atmosphere? Suddenly your posts in this thread make more sense. Dude, even Fuxsie is regretting that you’re on his side now.

This has probably been posted already, so just pretend there is an echo in here.

It is a global map of average temperature changes in 2014 relative to a 1981-2010 base period. Colors indicate where in the world it got hotter or cooler. I think we can tell at a glance that the world overall is warming, and other data confirm this. But! Look closer! There are (relatively small, globally speaking) spots where temperatures went down! Holy cats, one of those spots is over North America!! It’s a gift from Providence, proof that America really is the greatest country on Earth!!!

Look! The Galapagos Islands got cooler! This not only disproves global warming, but disproves evolution too!

The cooling trend for part of the US is a well known event. I mentioned it a long time ago, in this topic. I hope it was this topic. I should check.

Yep, here it is

Science!

Bitch

Psst. Western states. Alaska.

“What part of average don’t you understand?”