I'm so goddamn tired of dental problems.

Sorry to hijack the hijack back to me complaining about my rusty junkyard of a mouth, but it turns out the crack I heard in my mouth was indeed a crack that bisected one tooth and even went into the next one somehow.

It’s like the old metal filling was forced down and split the tooth, much like an axe splitting a log. It must have been weakening for years, I was just eating some chicken and maybe rice and veggies, nothing hard, when it finally went.

So this morning I had a couple crowns done, which went well.

How do you make a crack that goes through two teeth? That is jaw-dropping bad luck, Retvim. Damn.

Since you got two crowns, I’m assuming the crack went across the teeth. Glad you didn’t have to get a root canal. They’re no fun and a live tooth is better than a dead one. Hope this is your last dental adventure. At least for a few years.

Still not out of the woods, one or both might still need a root canal.

I wonder if believing in conspiracy theories is a sign of amalgam-induced mercury poisoning?

Probably. You mix that mercury with the fluoride in the water, and BAM - instant conspiracy theorist!

You have my sympathy. Those are never fun and seldom cheap.

People are still going on about that video?

I did prep work for dental school courses that taught that video, and it’s very, very thorough debunking, over ten years ago. The Andrew Wakefield of it’s day. And that day is long past.

Science, bitches.

Still not immune to trolls, sadly.

The “magic smoke” bit reminded me a lot of “Loose Change”.

Truthers are immune to facts.

Not really, more modern video using mercury detectors are more effective at showing the actual amounts of mercury vapor released from mercury fillings.

The “debunkings” were in fact pseudo-science at best, denial at worst. The claims of “it’s just water vapor” gave way to “oh it’s just a small amount” many years ago. Now the tactic is to deny small amounts of mercury are harmful, something the coal industry loves, since that is their argument for not having to worry about the mercury coming out of coal smokestacks.

Like I said, no amount of scientific evidence will ever convince the deniers who claim mercury fillings are harmless.

The mercury is of course quite harmful to the rest of the world, not just the poor idiot with a mouthful of the stuff.

That in this day and age, that anyone would still believe mercury is a harmless substance, and that filling people’s teeth with a mixture of it is a good thing, it’s not just ignorance.

Just as looking at the science and not seeing what is right there, it’s more than ignorance.

[Dart Vader]
The straw is strong with this one…
[DV]

QFT. Indeed.

That’s not a hijack, that’s exactly the kind of thing that happens to millions of people, due to the nature of mercury based fillings. The metal doesn’t bond to the tooth, so they have to drill out this huge space to press the metal into, which weakens the tooth. It’s a recipe for disaster later, and of course, a lot of money from a crown.

Modern materials and methods (which many Dentists are not trained in) only require a small amount of drilling to remove the actual decay, which always starts off as a small area, and a small amount of material bonded to the tooth.

This does not weaken the entire tooth, and is a far better way of stopping decay, with out weakening the tooth itself.

Even if mercury was 100% safe, which it it certainly is not, it’s a TERRIBLE WAY TO TREAT TOOTH DECAY, due to the damage caused by removing so much material, in order to be able to use a metal filling.

This isn’t some secret, and dentists are certainly divided on the matter, with old school dentists in absolute denial that there Civil war era methods are in any way harmful.

It’s quite amazing that in this modern world anyone would still defend an outdated and harmful way to fill cavities, but there it is.

Ignorance, it’s harmful, but really hard to stop.

except for the fact that for both amalgam and resin base fillings we remove only the tooth structure needed. Also the resin based composits need to be absolutely dry to bond. When the decay is subgingival the fill doesn’t bond and one gets leakage and recurrent decay. Neither type of filling material is perfect and there are lots of variables when dealing with humans but I will say that in doing dentistry for 28 years Amalgam lasts longer for sugbgingival decay. Do I have controled studies, nope just lots of observations. For supragingival decay they are about equal.

The absolute lack of evidence based studies (because mercury fillings were “grandfathered” in), as well as the complete lack of any plans to do any studies, is a clear sign of ignorance.

Even if mercury based fillings were “better”, in that they lasted longer, there is abundant evidence they are FUCKING DANGEROUS, and not just to the poor idiot with a mouth full of them.

The goddamn coal industry must love the dental lobby that has convinced legislators that “a tiny bit of mercury is just fucking fine don’t worry about it”. Because that is exactly what the coal lobby says as well.

And of course there is no study on the amount of material removed to use a metal filling. But dentists know.

More alarmist pap from FX.

http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ProductsandMedicalProcedures/DentalProducts/DentalAmalgam/ucm171094.htm

I see you are conveniently ignoring everything rsat3acr says on the subject, despite the fact he is a dentist and you are not.

If you are actually a Dentist, then describe the regulations and procedures you are required to follow when using mercury, or removing it.

No, don’t link to some web page, tell us what you actually have to do when preparing and using mercury in your office. and how you dispose of the mercury not used, or removed.

I see no evidence yet to support his claim of being a dentist. However, if it’s true, then we have a real discussion going on.

SCIENCES!

He’s posted in many dental related threads previous to this one.

Cool, then there should be no problem with explaining what is required by law when he uses mercury. I can hardly wait. To see how he avoids answering an actual question, which is completely related to the issue of using mercury ion medicine.