I like my guys with character (non-shallowness) hint hint WB
And then of course, there are women who know both :rolleyes:
Jeez, WB, I forgot how you like to bait people. If you can’t insult their sex or opinion, you go for age now? What is next, religion? But I haven’t seen you play that card since May. Wasn’t that when you had so much fun with Daniel and Satan?
In regard to my age. When I was 15, I did not refer to women as barnyard animals and now that I am older and I employ women (and men), I still don’t. And I would think you would be mature enough to do the same. But apparently I am wrong.
I rarely wear makeup anymore…only when I am going out.
Oddly enough (at almost 33) I get carded only when I don’t wear much make up aka, just some mascara and a dab of blush but when I wear makeup (the whole foundation, blush, lipstick, mascara, eye shadow and a tad of eye liner) I must look like I am trying to hide my age or something I can’t figure it out. Oh and I use Loreal, a pretty good product line, not department store rip-off-because it’s the same as the drugstore stuff but upper end of the drugstore lines.
Anyhow, some women look better with it, some without and some need to put their faces in a meat grinder for better results. But it comes down to the fact that men who like a woman that hides behind her war paint needs to quit bowing down to the stereo types of the media and look to a woman’s natural beauty and embrace who she really is. :rolleyes:
I’m not TV time, but I am uncer 21, which probably lays to rest your notion of all people who dislike that term being old or something.
Unless I’m “something” . . . 
Anyway. I generally prefer makeup-less faces. And Braves pitchers, but that’s another thread:)
I’m 20, and while I don’t object to “chicks” per se, I object to it as a demeaning term. (“chick” when used by a femme gay guy for instance, no harm. When used with a hillbilly, beer swilling, obey your husband and get me a pot pie grunt, its offensive.)
You don’t like your chicks without makeup? I don’t like my assholes without depth. (And I’m pretty glad I’m not your chick.)
I don’t wear makeup other than some glitter on occassion. I have this translucent complexion and 98 times out of 100 makeup looks fake, no matter how light or talented of a touch applied it. I’m not big on fake, I’d rather have someone attracted to me than to my eye shadow. I’ll take my internal radience, wit, charm, and personality and use that to sort out the screwballs from the guys that remotely deserve a moment of my time and attention. Eye makeup a must? Not a guy on my radar, not in a million years, not even on X.
For my part, I’ll be a doll and judge them more on their wit, charm, brilliance, charactor and inner strength than the number of Mexican Fat burners they can suck down a day and not have horrible gas. (And how many is that Bill?)
It sounds to me like I’m not the only one who found your comments offensive. Do they not have a sense of humor either?
As for the Bible, perhaps the Bible scholars can help me out here. Is there any verse that says that you can’t make an insulting, knee-jerk judgement about the motives of an entire group of people just because their taste in female pulchritude differs from your own?
Wildest Bill, I’ve asked you before and I’ll ask you again. When have I asked anything of you which Jesus doesn’t already expect of you?
-Ben
Wildest Bill said:
You will refrain from purporting to speak for me, since you aren’t even remotely qualified to do so.
I too think women look better without makeup. Especially the ones who lay it on with a trowel–I have a cousin who used to do that, and I always had to resist the urge to hum Send In The Clownswhen I saw her. Fortunately, she grew out of it when she hit 30 or so,
I grew up in the South, and we had a little tradition at school called “Slave Day” on which the girls would bid on the boys on the first day, and then have a day on which they could tell their “slaves” what to do. Then the boys would bid on the girls, and would have a day on which they told the girls what to do (thus giving them a chance for revenge.) It was decided by the administration that girls could make boys wear makeup, but the boys couldn’t make the girls go without makeup because that was just too cruel. (Bear in mind that every single girl at our school wore huge amounts of makeup.)
If you ask me, that’s pretty screwed up: our school said, in effect, that girls are so ugly that it would be cruel to make them uncover their faces.
-Ben
While Bill certainly phrased his preferences for beauty (his beauty ideal if you will) in a decidedly crass and tasteless way, I feel like he’s being railed on for simply liking girls to wear makeup. Aren’t we allowed to have preferences? I prefer guys who wear earrings and silver necklaces. So what? Is that doing any harm to you?
And come on. I use chick all the time. I call my MOTHER a chick. I call everyone a chick. I just sent an email out to a doper the other day and said “you are one cool chick”. I think perhaps Bill gets an automatic pile on every time he posts, and that’s sort of sad, no matter how off the mark he is.
jarbaby
Perhaps he should quit phrasing things in “a decidedly crass and tasteless way”? It seems to me that that would solve half of his problems right off the bat. It’s not as though WB is cursed with some mysterious blight by which everyone piles on to him for no reason. WB himself has admitted, on occasion, that there are things he needs to change about his posting style, but he never actually does anything about it.
-Ben
I think he’s being piled on more for stating that anyone who disagrees is an insecure liar.
perhaps that’s true for the men responding, but I’ve noticed more than one woman saying:
I hardly believe that if a woman or another man altogether posted a thread that said “Women are so much sexier with Tattoos” that they would get that reaction.
I agree, bill needs a lot of work, I mean, Bionic Man type work to get him up to snuff to avoid pile ons. But I do also believe that people are allowed to have personal preferences.
and I really like makeup, and I’m deep and know a lot about sports.
jarbaby
You might have a point there. But the friend I was talking about really was insecure and he did lie about it. So I thought I would just throw that in at the end of the post to make it a meatier discussion. And it was I feel like a beat up rump roast.
Jarbabyj,
Thanks for the kind words I am going to go exchange my gold chain for a silver one today. Oh and are clip on ear rings ok? 
Maybe, jarbaby, but if a woman or another man had said “Chicks are so much sexier with tattoos. All chicks should be tattooed. Any guy who claims he doesn’t like tattoos on chicks must be an insecure liar.” he or she would have gotten the exact same reaction as Bill.
Bill is just trying, as he so often does, to get a rise out of people. He admitted this himself in his last post with his reference to “mak[ing] it a meatier discussion.” “Meatier discussion” being Bill-speak for “more generally annoying and inflammatory.”
Jess (who has a tattoo, has worn light make-up daily for the last 28 years and who is not usually offended by the light hearted use of the term “chick.”)
Women should wear makeup if it makes them feel better about themselves, but to hear your mate proclaim “you’d look better with makeup” is equivalent to him saying “you’d look better wearing a disguise”. That can be a little demoralizing.
Why not tell her that she’d look better after a nose job, or a tummy tuck?
Bill: Let’s assume for the sake of argument that you don’t mind having a bushy, tangled unibrow and therefore have no motivation to do anything about it. Now if your “chick” came to you and said you’d look better if you plucked your eyebrows, would you do it?
So now we can’t voice opinions to our mates? I tell my husband all the time that I love him better with his goatee than without. Sure, it’s up to him in the end, but he keeps the goatee, because he knows I like it. I also told him to keep his head shaved and wear more hawaiian shirts. He told me he prefers my hair long, so I’m growing it out.
What’s the harm in voicing your preferences?
jarbaby
Jarbaby: You look better when you don’t talk so much
I think phrasing is critically important. When you tell hubby that you like his goatee, that’s offering your opinion, no harm done. Better still, if you say it while he has one, it’s a compliment & an ego boost for him.
If, OTOH, you say that he looks better with a goatee, that’s a borderline dig at his insecurities especially if you say it while he doesn’t happen to be sporting one. A really sensitive person might be hurt by the implication that they don’t look as good as they could.
I tend to look at the negative side of Bill saying to his “chick” that she could use a little airbrushing. Hearing that, her response (probably withheld) is “I don’t look so good because I am not wearing any makeup right now”.
Offering opinions is OK, just think about how the opinion might be received. In other words, care about your mate’s self-image at least as much as you care about his/her looks.
Her nose is fine. A tummy tuck would be nice though. 
Absolutely. I would pluck’em in a minute for her. When she is happy I am happy. I think that is why we have made it so long we try to make each other happy. She wanted my back bigger even though working back is one of least favorite muscle to work. What do i do I work back now - hard.
Back to the make up she looks good without it(while some chicks look buttass ugly without it) but she looks even better with it. See what I am saying. Make up accents a women’s features and makes them look better. I mean after all this forum is called IMHO and that is my opinion.
Wildest Bill, I had no idea you were so old you got to see Cleopatra wearing makeup.
One of the first acts of the UN when they take over as one world government will be to ban makeup. Of that I am sure.