I lost my job earlier this month and thought, “Hmmm, might as well extract all the benefit I can out of my employer-provided health insurance before it runs out at the end of the month.” So I decided to get up to date on all vaccine shots that I was overdue or close to overdue for - Tdap, polio, meningitis, hepatitis A, hepatitis B - in a three-week span. A month prior to that, I’d also gotten the MMR shot for citizenship purposes.
I started getting headaches and feeling weird and did a blood test, and it turned out my MMP9 inflammation factor had soared to 1070 (and perhaps even higher) - quite far beyond normal. Turns out I had forgotten to take into account that my body was still recovering from longterm toxic-mold exposure, which made it skyrocket a lot more than if I’d been a normal unaffected person. Now I’ve put my brain-blood-barrier at major risk and need to find some way to reduce it in a big way ASAP before worse stuff happens.
I’m as pro-vax as anyone but now I can see the other side of the argument (not the vaccines-cause-autism BS, but the “definitely do them with care and research” side.)
I had 3 shots at the same time, ie in one day, a few months ago - Covid, Shingles, Flu. No problems whatsoever, aside from the usual mild sore spots at the injection sites for a couple of days.
Yeah, what happened to you was not a reaction to those shots, I will bet.
I had always been someone who allowed a week or 3 between vaccinations. Thinking that multiple vaxxes in quick succession might result in a less than full-throated response to the later one(s) due to immune system fatigue from the earlier one(s). My thinking was that only so many balls can be juggled at once.
I was heartily disabused of that notion by one of the resident physicians complete w real cites & everything.
The OP may be ill right now, but his vaxxing binge is probably not actually related. No matter how thoroughly he believes they are.
I’m gonna step out on a limb here.
IAN any kind of D. Most especially not yours.
But I can say with out any hestation or reservation your blood/brain barrier is fine.
You’re gonna be fine.
You feel junky because you rushed it.
You will get better.
I’ve had a recent vaccination reaction that my doctor considered serious. And I’m already much better. In about 7 days.
You know, not every dumb decision we make maims or kills us. I make about 600 a day.
I want to know why he did that. I don’t think the article said why. Maybe to get lots of vaccination cards and sell them to others? Maybe he was super-paranoid about getting Covid and he thought this would help?
I’m not specifically asking you, susan, I’m just curious.
I don’t know, Beck… seems to me only @Velocity’s doctor should be offering him diagnoses and prognoses.
Getting several vaccines over a three-week span will not cause problems related to overtaxing the immune system, which is what the OP seems to be fearing.
Given all the immune challenges/stimulation we get on a daily basis, it’s a good thing that immune capacity can easily handle multiple vaccines over a short period.
Elevation of MMP-9 may not have anything to do with vaccines or “getting headaches and feeling weird”. Only a qualified medical practitioner can evaluate the significance, if any, of such a reading.
What with the description of toxic mold exposure and the OP’s resorting to this test, I have some concern about how the diagnosis was rendered and why MMP-9 testing may have been recommended.
Getting a series of vaccines in a short period may cause the protective efficacy to be lower just because the immune system is overworked. It will not cause some long-enduring reaction, although the adjuvants in one or more of the individual vaccines could potentially cause a systemic inflammatory response. Why the o.p. believes that this would “put my brain-blood-barrier at major risk” or interact with prior “longterm toxic-mold exposure” is another question, one I suspect is drawn from suspect internet research on questionable (at best) websites.
The mention of this sparked a memory so I did a little search and found previous threads in which the o.p. has described his mold exposure and purported maladies:
Would appreciate source material on just how vaccine efficacy is lowered due to the immune system being “overworked” by administration of multiple vaccines.
As for adjuvants, there’s nothing harmful about the enhanced immune response they ensure, while exposing the body to far fewer antigens that would normally be needed to create antibodies and program T and B cells to respond to disease challenges.
There’s a lot of dubious science and outright quackery surrounding diagnosis and testing for “toxic mold syndrome”. Hopefully the OP hasn’t been caught up in that.
I hope this doesn’t get me in trouble (if it does please delete this mods), but can’t help but think this was posted to simplify spread antivax misinformation.
No need for the skeptical face; I am not an anti-vaxxer or conspiranoist as a cursory review of my posts on the topic will demonstrate. I’ll let you peruse the CDC guidance on vaccines & immunizations (skip down to “Simultaneous administration”); while they say:
Experimental evidence and extensive clinical experience provide the scientific basis for administering vaccines simultaneously12. Simultaneously administering all vaccines for which a person is eligible at the time of a visit increases the probability that a child, adolescent, or adult will be vaccinated fully by the appropriate age13. A
they also note specific exceptions regarding PCV13 and PPSV23, Menactra and Prevnar 13 in patients with anatomic or functional asplenia and/or HIV infection. I recall when doing the rabies sequence (many years ago, may have changed) it was specifically cautioned against doing any other vaccines except for a tetanus booster. Other vaccines recommended for international travel were all given simultaneously (during the same visit).
Regardless, the symptoms expressed by the o.p. are not due to an “overdose” of vaccination. It could be due to an adverse reaction to the adjutant in one of the vaccines; I had a severe systemic inflammatory response to a flu vaccine in 1993 or 1994 that basically laid me out for over a week and caused me to avoid getting the influenza vaccine for many years, but I’ve gone back to annual injection of the quadrivalent annual vaccine (and COVID-19 vaccine ‘booster’) with just barely noticeable swelling at the injection site that goes away within a day.
I’m assuming the o.p. got their vaccinations from a reputable medical or pharmaceutical professional who would do a check on any interactions and possible side effects and would have made an appropriate recommendation if any of them should be spaced out from others. While exposure to toxins from mold exposure is a real thing, it doesn’t produce some kind of exaggerated response to vaccination that has been presented in any medical literature, and the mold itself cannot grow inside of a human or other mammal because the body temperature is too high (although there is concern that pathogenic microfungi becoming adapted to warming tropical climates could pose a serious health threat in the coming future of a much warmer world) so the concern about his matrix metalloproteinases indicators being too high due to excessive vaccination is nonsense. If those levels are actually far above normal (as indicated by blood test by a certified lab, not whatever a mail-order test-at-home kit says) it is likely indicative of some other medical issue that does need to be checked out.
If you think posting something might get you into trouble, then either don’t post it or check with a mod first. We don’t delete posts except in certain rare circumstances, of which this is not one.
Your post verges on an accusation of trolling by the OP. As such, it is a personal attack. Don’t do this again. If you feel there is a problem with someone’s post, flag it for moderator action.
