This is the debate I asked for in the OP – yes, I’m sure some of them are doctors or teachers or other socially-productive people, and THEY have a net soicial benefit, even aside from their evil politics. But are there enough of those people in the group to outwiegh the socially-useless ones. I think not, but I’d like an argument.
So far, nobody has one. People are unwilling to follow through with their logic. They know conservatives are bastards that drag society down, but when someone asks, even in idle way, if we wouldn’t be better off without them … which should be OBVIOUS … everyone gets all “oh no, every sperm is sacred, every human life is valuable” shit.
The crazy accusations against Clinton never got the number of followers nor mainstream media attention that people like, say, birthers have gotten. Never.
Huh, I guess **The Facts ***do *have a liberal bias. :rimshot:
Fear and ignorance. They reinforce each other.
Yes, they were.
Hitler had loved ones who would miss him. (Godwin’d*!!!*)
The *teabaggers *don’t even understand why they hate Obama. They get asked what they actually do believe, or what they think should be done, and they just stare at you like deer in fucking headlights.
So, care to make an argument there, or are you just gonna point and go, “NUH-UH”? Because if you want, we can do that back and forth all day, and in the end I’ll still come away looking better, since I’m the one who started with an actual point instead of just an unsupported denial.
As I expected, some stupid person ALWAYS gets the analogy wrong. Why don’t you just say I’m no better than they are and that killing won’t solve anything? That’ll get you the trifecta of impotent reasoning
Tea Baggers are going to start killing people directly soon if they don’t get their way. Their anti-health, anti-progressive, pro-religion, and pro-gun stance have already killed millions indirectly. Wishing Tea Baggers death is self-defense. I’m not at all hateful like they are. I only hate them because they pose a threat to me
For all the Tea Baggers and people who support them, consider taking your fervor down a notch. Ditch the arguments about Obama = Hitler, or government takeovers. Instead, simply confess, if you can scrape together the brain cells to make a coherent sentence, that Obama simply has different views than you, no more dangerous than somebody who doesn’t share the same sports fandom, and that government has a role, sometimes a big role, especially when the previous government decided to cede their authority and responsibility to private for-profit corporations with no accountability
Then maybe you can live. Otherwise, fuck 'em all, go die
Prove it. Show me hucksters who got all the attention of, say, Oily Taint or whatever the hell her name is. Show me people in the military who refused to serve under Clinton because he wasn’t a legal President. Show me people who got their names on ballots for anything other than County Dogcatcher.
Progressives wishing for death to the Teabaggers is exactly what they want. They are, based on their propensity to bring guns to political rallies, a brutish breed, waiting for an overt green light to begin engaging in violent actions. We almost saw the start of it, IMO, when windows of Democratic congresspeople were being shattered.
I have noticed the propensity of those on the right to first accuse the left of something, anything, in order to obfuscate the issues at hand and inoculate themselves from accusation. In this way, when they are rightly called out for their irresponsible behavior, the overall impression of the Milk Party (my term for the masses who are not politically engaged) is of equal and equally corrupted tit-for-tat.
So while I can understand the sentiment, especially after boiling over my own self here in the Pit a couple days ago, I’d have to say it would be more effective to hold off, in public places, vocalizing the idea that the world would be a better place without the teabags. It gives them cover. And beyond that, it would be far more satisfying to defeat them the American way: through better speech, through more activism, and at the polls.
That’s right! Because saying on a random message board that it might be nice if all the teabaggers just dropped dead GIVES THEM POWER! SHIT, THE SDMB IS GOING TO BE ON FUCKING HANNITY AND COLMES TONIGHT!!!
Yes, this is a great point! The Tea Party right does get more than their fair share of attention, and it empowers them to gain name recognition and even credibility :eek: from the punditocracy.
And it is far more developed in the current era of consolidated, corporate media than it was in the '90s.
Jesus Christ, this thread has descended into bizarro land. You guys are completely freaking blind to your own hatred. And you have the gall to keep repeating the claim that the Tea Party is hateful and violent. I’ve read a lot of Tea Party material, and read a lot of discussion between tea partiers, and I have never, ever seen anyone express a wish for the death of anyone on the left.
This is interesting from a sociological standpoint though. The levels of righteous indignation I’m hearing from some of you are off the chart.
It’s a bit like the tantrum of a small child when mom refuses to buy the sugary cereal in the grocery store.
How about the signs that say, “we came unarmed…this time?”
How about the Newsmax article calling for a military coup against Obama?
ETA, I do think that most of them are all talk when it comes to the threats of violence and bloviating about revoluton, but we’ve already seen them engaging in low level violence and vandalism when emboldened in mobs, and sooner or later one or a few them is probably going to pull a Tim McVeigh or take a shot at somebody. They have some real psychotics in their ranks.