Immigrant boycott day May 1: Good idea?

I just found something called http://www.johnandkenshow.com/archives/2006/04/28/the-great-american-spend-a-lot/.

It is a promotion/anti-boycott by The John and Ken Show, a radio show on KFIAM640. To encourage you to buy a lot of stuff they ask you to fax in your receipt. Then twice an hour (3-7PM) they will select a receipt at random and reimburse you for your purchase—up to $640 per receipt. I’ll be buying some presentation materials. I need them anyway, and maybe they’ll be for free. Plus, anything to make this stupid anti-American boycott even more useless I’m all for.

No, I meant that the boycott might change the political landscape so that the final bill that passes both Houses of Congress is heavier on the enforcement side. You won’t be made a felon for helping an illegal immigrant, but (as an example) the penalties for crossing the border illegally might be raised. There is a whole spectrum of possible ways this bill could turn out. I just don’t see how this boycott is going to influence it in the immigrant-friendly direction. A different type of rally/protest could do that, but this boycott just seems too in-your-face to have a positive effect.

Wow. Some of us call that “the Democratric process” and refer to those sleeper cells as “citizens”. The vast majority of Mexicans are here legally. Some support this, some don’t. But the majority of these protests were organized by legal US citizens that, like most citizens, have an opinion on how the US should be run and are using one of the many tools available to citizens to attept to make their country a better place.

Anyway, I honestly don’t think there is much illegal immigrants can do to hurt their cause. They have been the king of scapegoats for ages, and that’s not going to change.

This doesn’t address the *tone * of the boycott activists, though. If they were calling for rallies supporting their cause on Mayday, that’s the democratic process - and I, for one, would give them my support.

But there’s an overwhelming tone of “We’re going to show that we now have enough people here to shut you down if you don’t do it our way”. This is what smacks of blackmail, and this is what I think will cost them in the long run.

It appears that most Americans are not too keen on this boycott, as I predicted they wouldn’t be:

And saying that this is just immigrant citizens exercising their right to protest is pretty misleading, even sven. From the same article:

Now, these guys have the right to protest, too. But when they try to shut things down to get legislation passed, is it any wonder that lots of people are going to say: Go back to where you came from if you don’t like the laws here, or go stand in line for a green card like legal immigrants do. As I said in my pit thread, I can easily think of some much better tactics to sway legislation their way.

A few days ago, there was talk on the Dallas/Ft. Worth Spanish language radio stations that the Latinos needed to “take back the states.”

My thoughts on that: You let your country get all fucked up, don’t come over here and fuck up ours. One of my ex girlfriends works in a Dallas area hospital and she says that uninsured illegal immigrants cause a big burden at the hospital. It is so bad at times that they just patch them up and send them to Parkland because they can’t handle the load.

I am also tired of hearing the shit about illegal immigrants take the jobs that lazy Americans won’t. I know people who would love to work some sort of job but they can’t afford to get paid what the illegals do because the actually pay taxes and stuff.

I don’t care where you are from, what you are legally doing here, as long as you pay your taxes. I have to. You should too, dammit.

Oh, and amnisty for a person who the first thing they did in our country was break the law??? (By illegally coming here in the first place.) Are you serious?

Which is why it was discouraged by many and officially dropped since last Monday at least in Arizona, I’m really disappointed in Reuters, virtually all the other reports do mention that not all organizers and leaders favor a boycott, not reporting now that the majority of the more important organizers are actively discouraging the boycott does speak volumes of the so called liberal media. But I guess everything to pull the chains to make us read or watch the news is their motto.

Funny thing is many already do and on April 15 they say goodbye to any return since many can not file for not having documentation, and to ask for legalization also includes the others that you describe, it amazes me that many don’t realize those people are demanding to be taxed properly, odd no?

No offense or anything, but I sincerely doubt that ALL of them are standing in line saying, “Hey, tax me!” I don’t see it working that way. I am assuming that they are smart enough to realize that the meager wages that many of them make wouldn’t be liveable if they had to pay out taxes, social security, medicaid…

Nope, they are smart enough to know that paying taxes is the price to pay to stop living in constant fear of deportation.

Agreed.

I worked as a factory supervisor for four years, and MOST of the workers there were illegal immigrants – the IRS informed us one year that 275 of our employees’ names didn’t match their SSN. That’s out of 400 or so workers. The way they did it was to claim few or no exemptions and not file a tax return. The IRS had to know what was going on…was this maybe an unspoken bribe not to blow the whistle on them? A “wink and a handshake” kind of deal?

Listening to the NPR program on this a few hours ago it was amazing how many e-mails they read that said essentially (paraphrased): “I’m a liberal Democrat, but I don’t have sympathy for people who come here illegally and then demand that we change our laws to accomodate them.”

I would say to them that they are being misled, laws are being changed (or attempted to be changed) to unaccommodate illegals even more and to even unaccommodate legal and already American citizens.

Waht? I can’t make out what your points are. Please explain.

I don’t think so. My guess is that those folks are largely against both extremes-- what the Republicans in the House passed, and what the protesters are demanding.

BTW, you keep saying this isn’t a boycott, and yet CNN is reporting about certain sectors of the economy at a virtual standstill because of people not showing up for work. Seems like a boycott to me!

Maybe where you are (Arizona?). Not here, I used to work for a dairy, and we had an illegal worker that works for the owner as well. Edwardo didn’t really worry about getting deported like he did several times, but he had an arrangement when ever he needed to go home to Mexico or if he got nicked. There was this company that brought him back over.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means. :slight_smile:

What I do now is that many work places already knew it was coming and many gave permission to them to leave or to close the businesses, I don’t think boycotters would be that polite.

Besides I will ignore what the fringe is demanding and go to the store today.

False, but a common UL. Illegals can and do file using a false SSN for employement and an ITIN for taxes.

Sorry, but you are wrong, that happened to me but I got better :slight_smile: (American citizen now). In any case not all illegals do it now and it not as easy, up to the point that calling it a UL is almost a lie:

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp?formmode=view&id=2202