Cool! Cool! Cool! Sci-fi Channel is going to produce Riverworld, Phillip Jose Farmers masterpiece! Cool!
Oh, sorry, hardly the place and time. But still…
Cool!
Yep. In DC.
Fatted calf, in the phone book under “F” or “C”?
I suck at “sincere”. For what its worth, j’ais vous salut
What a long, strange trip its been, no?
Scylla, to answer you question about repeated information, not to worry sir. I am absolutely positive that goerge will convey new subjects of conversation. He always does even though he has a hard time communicating on a level higher than a middle school dropout. Totally embarrassing if I may say so.
I wasn’t participating. I was visiting a friend and we went to see. Today we took the kids to the zoo.
I intend to write about it.
Oh yeah,
I wonder if he actually thought before posting that, “Hey, I know I’ll get banned, but I know at least a couple of them will be intrigued.”
Maybe I should focus my real talents on his wonderful site and bring it down quicker than the life span of a boy band or the bitch slap of a hummingbird.
Just give half an hour…
Chris
Oh, happy day.
Hey, elucidator, at least you got spamboy up there on your side. He’s a credit to all liberals, and most especially to you since he honored you by posting in your thread.
Every little bit helps, eh? 
You’re right. That’s the least.
You know, AD it may be that libruhls are more often customers of porno than conservatives. But I’d bet against it.
We have a resident expert on the Boards. Care to wager?
Great OP, elucidator!!!
elucidator, I have read a lot of these debates. Tons of information from both sides of the aisle. The question of whether war is justified has not been conclusively answered IMO. Obviously there is evidence for the extreme positions as well as everything in between on that continuum. One can hold a reasonable position regarding war without resorting to sarcasm, a snide tone, or hyperbole.
As any one who deals with other people knows the package can be just as important as the product. Why do we have spin doctors? Marketing employees? Lawyers? Why is tact considered a virtue? The packaging of a message is important. Perhaps even more so then the product itself in some cases. All that being said, if you’re debating these issues in order to convince others of the strength of your stance it would behoove you to evaluate “the package”. As others have posted it is difficult to take what you say at face value.
Yes, yes, I know. “Debate the issue, not the poster”. However, it’s never that simple. Do you, elucidator, take Bush at his word when he says something? Of course you don’t. In fact you probably, by instinct, doubt everything he says. I get the impression that you would continue to automatically presume nefarious and/or immoral motives to Bush regardless of what he does. You’re a smart guy, elucidator. “Quality stuff I disagree with” as Scylla might put it.
So what exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Raise awareness of something? Convince people that Bush is wrong in his push for war? Convince people that Bush has committed an offense (offenses?) worthy of impeachment? Blow off steam? Some combination of the above? Something else altogether? Whatever the case I sincerely believe your message would be improved immeasurably if you would simply cut out the insulting tone. I’m not posting this advice out of some misguided self perception as a “perfect poster”. I have my own flaws. I know them and I struggle with them. You’ve probably already been told this before as well and your response will probably be along the lines of “I post how I post”. I simply offer it up for your consideration.
Removing Bush would only make Cheney the President (the official one, that is). Removing Cheney would then give you Hastert, then Byrd, and we’ll have the next elections before then. So what? Never mind that the GOP committee chairmen can keep any such bill in cold storage.
I’ll second David Simmons suggestion that we need a mechanism for recall elections at the federal level - many states have them as well.
Grim, please be assured that I do not lack for people who are willing to take on the arduous task of preserving my humility. My son, for instance, seems to have made an avocation of it.
Yes. If he says “Ouch!”. If he says “Good Morning!” I will check first.
Not at all. I promise you, as God is my witness, if he goes on TV tonight and says “I’ve thought it over, and maybe there’s a better way. I’m gonna be patient, and ask everybody else to be patient, especially those poor guys hanging out in the desert. Maybe there’s a better way. If this many people in the world are against it, maybe they have a point.” I will be astounded, stunned, flabbergasted - but not dismayed. I will rush to these premises to pour effusive praise. I shall also buy an umbrella, for reasons I have outlined previoiusly.
If only. On rare occaisions, the aforementioned Betty Noyer offers straightforward praise for rhetorical brilliance. Yoiu can almost hear him bleed, but he does it. Kinda reminds of a Gore Vidal remark “When ever a friend of mine has a brilliant success, I die a little inside” But I take your point. The difference, of course, is that Scylla is rude, caustic and egotistical, whereas I am kindly and avuncular.
I’m trying to get Bush impeached. (See OP title) That is, quite frankly, impossible. So may be the struggle for Peace and Justice. On the other hand, I’ve nothing better to do. Have you?
As for the rest of your advice, it is no doubt well intended and richly deserved. But to be frank, I doubt very much than anyone reads a post of mine, and reels away from the computer and sobs themselves to sleep clutching thier banky. As much as I might wish it, in the dark depths of the reptile brain stem, simply ain’t so.
As for humor and sarcasm as a weapon against injustice and horror, it is a poor thing, but mine own. I take comfort in the words of the Master:
“Will a day come when the race will detect the funniness of these juvenilities and laugh at them–and by laughing at them destroy them? For your race, in its poverty, has unquestionably one really effective weapon–laughter. Power, Money, Persuasion, Supplication, Persecution–these can lift at a colossal humbug,–push it a little-- crowd it a little–weaken it a little, century by century: but only Laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of Laughter nothing can stand.”
Re Clinton: Thing is, the question should never have been asked. His escapades were nobody’s business but his own. – and his wife’s; she was entitled to ask the question; no one else was. I wish he’d just said, “none of your beeswax”.