In defence of Russia

Interesting.
Almost looks as if they might have concentrated more on domestic supply in anticipation of some sort of war or something?

Wow. Did Trump actually also call you a dumbass too? No idea you were in that high level circle. What is he really like?

Yep. You’re naught but a troll. The only open question is are you a troll from the west or from Russia.

I care not for nations of men. Under any bridge will do.

And how many folks who’ve been posting in this thread have been banned from other threads concerning Putin’s invasion of Ukraine?

Hmmm. That brings to mind a similarity of MSM versus independent media reporting of things. If the mainstream does not like what you say, ban it. But at least there is the pits to freely disagree.
Although in the real world. The pits are also being banned. So only one voice will be heard. The acceptable line, true or false.
I do not expect or demand you or anyone else believe what I have to say. I am not 100% sure of what is really going on. I try not to be ugly in my retorts. Though today I feel a bit frisky, so being sarcastic. I appreciate the folks who reply with some information they know. Rather than just nastiness.

I find it interesting how people react and reply to my posts.
They always feel I am championing the Russian side. Even when I cast doubts on the Russian aspect. Or just post something I find interesting as a fragment of facts, that in some way might shine some light on the murky situation.
But that is fine. Occasionally I just feel the need to yap a bit about this mess. Some item kicks up my interest. Maybe making me think it may mean things could go one way or another.
Aside from the folks who add some information of interest, I really don’t care what most say here.
It is the Pit after all. Putting on thick skin is advised.

Like in Russia?

It comes off as sealioning.

Are you unaware of the Twitter files revelations?

Not saying Russia is any better at all. Not by a very very long shot. But we need to also keep an eye on the free speech and freedom of information situation wherever we live. It is being taken away.

You must be some kind of genius, Komrad. Here’s a crazy thought, and just bear with me, maybe, just maybe the sanctions in place against Russia since 2014 were hurting its ability and attractiveness of its ability to provide arms on the foreign market, not some elaborate plan to concentrate on domestic supply for a war special military operation that was supposed to last 72 hours, not over a year and counting. Oh, and wasn’t supposed to chew up their tank fleet so badly that they’ve resorted to pulling T-62s (a tank put into service in the 1960s if the name didn’t give it away) out of storage to sent to Ukraine, and it looks like T-54s from, you guessed it, the 1950s are on their way as well now.

Talking about Russian arms exports in its current situation when it is looking around desperately for arms imports from nations it has traditionally exported to such as Iran, North Korea and China with varying degrees of success is frankly idiotic. It’s not exactly a novel thought or an underreported concept.

JULY 21, 2022, 2:15 PM

Russia’s planned big-ticket arms sales in Africa are expected to take a hit as a result of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, U.S. defense and intelligence officials told Foreign Policy , depriving the Kremlin of a major revenue source as the five-month war continues to devolve into a bitter stalemate.

Nov. 6, 2022

Arms sales have long been an important part of Russian foreign policy. But those sales were declining before the invasion of Ukraine, and analysts say that the war will probably hasten the trend.

Russia’s performance on the battlefield has damaged its reputation as a military power, they say, and financial and export controls by the U.S. and European governments will make it that much harder for the Kremlin to present itself as a reliable long-term arms supplier for future deals.

“I don’t think Russia can recover as a major arms exporter from this,” said Ian Storey, a political scientist at the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute in Singapore who studies security issues in Asia. “Not for a long time, if ever.”

And hey, look, Russia can’t meet existing arms deals because they need the arms themselves in Ukraine:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/24/india/india-russia-arms-delivery-ukraine-war-intl-hnk/index.html

Russia is unable to honor its arms delivery commitments to India because of the war in Ukraine, the Indian Air Force (IAF) said, placing a potential strain on New Delhi’s relationship with its largest defense supplier as Moscow attempts to ramp up weapons production.

An IAF representative told an Indian parliamentary committee that due to the Ukraine war a “major delivery” from Moscow “is not going to take place.”

The admission, published in a report by India’s lower house of parliament on Tuesday, is the first official confirmation by Indian authorities amid swirling rumors and reports in local media suggesting shortcomings in Russian capacity.

“They have given us in writing that they are not able to deliver it,” the representative said, according to the report.

CNN has contacted the Russian Embassy in New Delhi but did not receive a response at the time of publishing.

The report did not mention the specifics of the delivery.

The biggest ongoing delivery is the S-400 Triumf air defense system units India bought in 2018 for $5.4 billion. Three of these systems have been delivered and two more are awaited, Reuters reported.

IAF also depends on Russia for spares for its Su-30MKI and MiG-29 fighter jets, the mainstay of the service branch, according to Reuters.

I am, they made a great show of not dealing with how a sitting President, Trump, got Twitter to do his bidding.

Thank you for posting a lot of info.
But it really does not negate my thought. Russia did not just invade Ukraine on the spur of the moment. But I do grant you may be correct that they thought it would be some cakewalk, and found the opposite. But I think they were considering such actions being required for quite some time before the actual invasion. They had been shouting their red lines for a long time before it. So I suspect they were also preparing for some time before. How long or how heavily is not clear.
I think. Only my personal guess. That the west is publicly and maybe but less likely privately underestimating Russian military production capacity. And preparatory stockpiles. Not by a huge amount. But considering the relative size of the two nations, the amounts can be very decisive.
I feel the west is not providing enough, fast enough. But again. We do not know what is really going on. I would not be totally surprised if Ukraine mounted a very large offensive with so far undisclosed amounts of materiel.
In the same vein. What the hell does Russia really have up its sleeve?
I posted that link, because it had so many verified numbers of production capabilities in fairly recent times. There are so few hard numbers around. I leave it up to the folks here to consider what the hell it might mean.
And you went to some effort to reply. Thank you.

Wow. That is interesting. Have you read any of the Matt Taibbi articles on it? He is one of the journalists with full access to the files.

So, every question is an admission?

The only similarity is that the MSM requires its journalists to actually abide by journalist ethics and not post nonsense. The “MSM” requires their journalists to have credible sources. You’ve been told and shown for some time now that your sources are not, in fact, credible.

Good grief. Not even you can be so dense to believe that is even close to accurate. Putin’s “red line” was for Ukraine to abandon its own territory to satiate a power-hungry megalomaniac’s pipe dream of restoring the USSR.

Now go ahead and trot out the name of an actual leader of an actual sovereign country that would agree to just hand over vaste populated swathes of their own country to Russia’s current dictator. Try to do it without lying and/or quoting Kremlin propaganda.

Yet this is the best they can manage given all that preparation?

Putin’s no Gloriana.

You should have higher goals. This is a lazy man’s “critical thinking”. You accept all sources at a somewhat face value because the situation is murky instead of doing any real critical analysis of them. You need to consider the source, and match information up to known realities. Yes, the situation is murky but not so murky that you should be placing any trust in the vast majority of what you’re posting. The result is that you at least appear to be very pro-Russia. Of course, I cannot read your mind, but some of your analysis has been so far from reality, that it boggles the mind. Hence my question, what is wrong with you? I cannot imagine any rational person being so pro-Russia without actually being pro-Russia (outside of partisan political reasons as we’re seeing with Republicans).

I have my students here in Beijing doing an individual term project: researching a disability community of their own choice in China (all the Deaf in China, all the Blind in China, etc.) and making an infograph in English about that community. It has always been a challenge to get students here to evaluate a source instead of merely parrotting something or just C&P. For each source they’re citing in their project, they are also required to submit a CRAAP analysis. This has really cut down the nonsense and irrelevance in the work produced.

I’m sure you get my point. It’s doubtful our kooky komrade does.