I will go so far as to say there’s nothing wrong with trying to get a lady friend drunk to lower her inhibitions, and then to try to seduce her—so long as she knows you are offering alcohol and is free to refuse it, and she never gets so drunk she loses consciousness or is unable to understand what is going on around her.
I doubt anyone gives a shit if someone “doesn’t like” a song. It’s the whole erroneously slapping the “OMG Date Rape Song!” label on it and trying to get it removed from airplay that people object to.
It’s like someone crusading against “Puff the Magic Dragon” because they’ve convinced themselves that it’s all about weed. It’s not that I’m deeply invested in the song playing on the radio, but I’m not the one at fault for calling out someone else being wrong and then acting on their misconceptions.
Wait: “Puff the Magic Dragon” is NOT about weed? The devil, you say!
That’s right! It’s about the devil!
And just how do you interpret the line “What’s the sense in hurting my pride?” His pride will be broken if she leaves? If I were the woman in that sign and a man used that excuseto try to make me stay, I’d be tempted to hurt a lot more than his pride.
But it’s NOT taking a lot of heat. That’s the point. It’s a made up outrage that you seem to have fallen for.
Shows that it’s all a stunt. Station pulls song, listeners divide into two camps, national debate ensues. Add revenues go up. Ban is lifted.
Maybe the next step is to make a station that ONLY plays BICO. Every version by everyone that sang it, and nothing else.
This is why I have my own Christmas playlist. No crappy songs like this one to make my season unbright.
The CBC most definitely did not do it to “pull a stunt”. They’re not a commercial radio station.
I hadn’t heard about this Facebook movement until I read it here. Then one of my FB friends mentioned it today, saying he has seen dozens of posts about it over the past week or two. I have yet to see a single one.
I started this thread because of the SNL sketch (is that made up too?, and people online expressing similar opinions. It was never about censorship. Why is it okay for other people to criticize the song, but not for me to defend it? :dubious:
A Colorado radio station had also pulled the song and then restored it following a listener poll
It’s okay for you to defend it, sure.
What I’m saying is you, and your FB friend apparently, think “dozens” of posts over a week is outrage. The original radio station pulled the song after ONE listener called in. There are 350 million people in this country. “Dozens” of posts doesn’t mean there is a national outrage that you need to defend.
It similar to various posts I see that say “Dems are OUTRAGED over something!” when the “outrage” is 3 people on Twitter saying it.
If the radio stations wanted to take the song off-air, they should have done so quietly and discreetly. Making a big hullabaloo about it simply triggered the Streisand Effect.
It was a stunt, and it worked.
It seems you’re still not getting it. I created this thread in 2017, long before this current cultural moment. It was to defend the song, not to defend any “outrage”.
You also seem not to understand how Facebook differs from something like Twitter. If my friend is seeing “seemingly dozens of posts a DAY” (probably exaggeration, but apparently it’s a lot) that means those are only from the people in his social group. Not from among 350 million people.
If people on here are reporting seeing a lot of these posts, and my friend from a (presumably) different social circle is reporting seeing a lot of them, it starts to seem likely it’s a pretty sizable trend—although, as I noted, I have yet to see such a post myself. But then, most of the people I have told Facebook to show me posts from are liberals under 50.
But the vast majority of those that are outraged on Facebook support the song-they fell for the hype and are ready to take up arms against a mostly nonexistent monster.
Next verse (usually omitted).
Well, you got me on that. I didn’t realize this thread was from 2017.
I do understand how Facebook works. And if 12 of my friends were “outraged” about something, I wouldn’t come here and defend whatever they were outraged about. (Again, less appropriate due to the start date of this thread) But in general, I don’t let my friend’s “outrage” about something lead me to believe it is a great thing that needs defending to anyone but those friends.
Well, there is that one person who called the radio station. Can we take up arms against him/her?
BTW, has there been any mention of which version of BICO is under discussion?
[Anecdote]My wife and I drove to my sister’s home about 250 miles away last weekend, and we had a holiday music channel on the satellite station for both legs of the trip. We heard the song being sung by James Taylor/Natalie Cole; Dean Martin/Golddiggers; Lady Antebellum; Dean Martin/Martina McBride; Blake Shelton/Gwen Stefani; Seth MacFarlane/Sara Bareilles; Rod Stewart/Dolly Parton and Brett Eldridge/Meghan Trainor (I think they left out Michael Buble/Idina Menzel because they thought it would be overkill).[/Anecdote]
Yes, I’m quite aware of that, and have been all along (which is to say, when I read the mentions of the FB outrage here, and then when I read my friend’s post about them). This is why when I said I hadn’t actually seen any of these posts, it’s probably because I don’t have older conservatives in my timeline. I’m aware that those are the cohort most likely to get their dander up about this kind of thing, even though I’m sort of generally on their side (until they start ranting and raving about “snowflakes” or whatever). If you interpreted my comments as meaning something different, you may want to go back and reread them with that understanding.
Ahhhh…okay, that explains a lot.