In the (first) movie, Jurassic Park, were Grant and Sattler in a relationship?

[Ellen_Cherry]

@Freudian_Slit

As Skald mentions, Sattler wasn’t that way. Neither was the novel version of Sarah Harding. She makes some really bone headed decisions in the Lost World movie but in the book, she helps save Ian Malcolm in the trailer park going over the cliff incident, and she’s much more hard nosed. (When the gang finds the hurt baby Rex, it’s Eddie Carr who wants to save it and Sarah who says to kill it to put it out of its misery.)

Just to shore up FS’s recollection here — I’ve read The Lost World a couple of times (only seen the movie once—bleh) and Sarah Harding is indeed a kick-ass individual. She is an expert on carnivore behavior; in fact they pull her out of the field in Africa where I believe she was observing hyenas. She’s the one who knows that by taking the baby Rex into the trailer, they change the boundaries and why the adult T. Rexes are shoving the trailer off the edge. She is competent and take-charge and I think the younger people all admire her.

Also, book-Lexi was a hideous child. She may have been a kid, yes, in terrifying circumstances, but all Crichton had her do for 300 pages was whine and scream and say nasty things to Tim. I was rooting for the dinosaurs to eat her the whole book. There’s a long scene in the book where they flee from the pterodactyls that’s completely terrifying and all she does is scream. I think the Rexes are stalking them at the time too.

I have a sneaking affection for JP3; it’s got William H. Macy, for one thing and it’s really nothing more than a “run for it!” monster movie. They don’t spend a lot of time on science. But I probably only like it because I’ve watched it a million times; it was on my older kids’ heavy rotation on VHS when they were about 8 or 10 years old.

[Tanbarkie]

@Ellen_Cherry

I have a sneaking affection for JP3; it’s got William H. Macy, for one thing and it’s really nothing more than a “run for it!” monster movie. They don’t spend a lot of time on science. But I probably only like it because I’ve watched it a million times; it was on my older kids’ heavy rotation on VHS when they were about 8 or 10 years old.

I find it slightly terrifying that JP3 has been out long enough that someone can describe its audience with the phrase “when they were about 8 or 10 years old” (emphasis on the “when,” as that implies they haven’t been so for some time).

[Freudian_Slit]

@Ellen_Cherry

Just to shore up FS’s recollection here — I’ve read The Lost World a couple of times (only seen the movie once—bleh) and Sarah Harding is indeed a kick-ass individual. She is an expert on carnivore behavior; in fact they pull her out of the field in Africa where I believe she was observing hyenas. She’s the one who knows that by taking the baby Rex into the trailer, they change the boundaries and why the adult T. Rexes are shoving the trailer off the edge. She is competent and take-charge and I think the younger people all admire her.

I think Kelly in particular liked her. There was a scene where Kelly said something about how she loved math and science at school but that girls weren’t supposed to be good at math. And Sarah pretty much tells her that’s BS and she shouldn’t let people tell her what she should and shouldn’t do. Also, Sarah and Kelly get to ride a motorcycle and shoot at raptors. (There’s a raptor with a key they have to shoot down.)

Also, book-Lexi was a hideous child. She may have been a kid, yes, in terrifying circumstances, but all Crichton had her do for 300 pages was whine and scream and say nasty things to Tim. I was rooting for the dinosaurs to eat her the whole book. There’s a long scene in the book where they flee from the pterodactyls that’s completely terrifying and all she does is scream. I think the Rexes are stalking them at the time too.

Glad others agreed. Tim was a pretty neat kid, though. I remember thinking his dad (who Tim recalls in flashback) was a real dick for not realizing how insanely smart and cool his eldest was.

I have a sneaking affection for JP3; it’s got William H. Macy, for one thing and it’s really nothing more than a “run for it!” monster movie. They don’t spend a lot of time on science. But I probably only like it because I’ve watched it a million times; it was on my older kids’ heavy rotation on VHS when they were about 8 or 10 years old.

Me too, actually. I try to catch it whenever it’s on and it’s on Netflix’s Insta watch. Not the best movie, but fun. And funny as well.

[outlierrn]

@Skald_the_Rhymer

Since you watched it last night: was it also your impression that the relationship was on the rocks (whether either of them was aware of that or not)?

Not at all, they were totally cozy.

[Ellen_Cherry]

@Tanbarkie

I find it slightly terrifying that JP3 has been out long enough that someone can describe its audience with the phrase “when they were about 8 or 10 years old” (emphasis on the “when,” as that implies they haven’t been so for some time).

Well, it came out in 2001. I don’t know exactly when we acquired it on VHS, but the children in question are now 13 and nearly 16. I wouldn’t mind popping that puppy in the VCR, if we had one that works. All those Disney movies on VHS, never to be watched again.

[Freudian_Slit]

@Ellen_Cherry

Also, book-Lexi was a hideous child. She may have been a kid, yes, in terrifying circumstances, but all Crichton had her do for 300 pages was whine and scream and say nasty things to Tim. I was rooting for the dinosaurs to eat her the whole book. There’s a long scene in the book where they flee from the pterodactyls that’s completely terrifying and all she does is scream. I think the Rexes are stalking them at the time too.

Sorry to resurrect this thread after over a week, but TVTropes agrees with me!

The Load: Lex in the book, dear God. She doesn’t even like dinosaurs, so why did she even get invited to the island? It should be noted that she is much older in the movie; in the book she is younger than Timmy is in the films, one of the things the movie improves.

[Skald_the_Rhymer]

@outlierrn

Not at all, they were totally cozy.

Sorry. I didn’t mean that they were arguing or considering breaking up in the first movie; rather that the seeds of their eventual breakup were easy to see, even though neither of them was consciously aware of it.

[rocking_chair]

they were a couple in jp. after jp the paleo would was turned on its head and they broke up. by jp3 they are friendly, she married someone else and he is getting back on his paleo feet.

i also enjoyed jp3 and thought it better than lost world.

syfy is having a jurassic weekend.

[outlierrn]

@Skald_the_Rhymer

Sorry. I didn’t mean that they were arguing or considering breaking up in the first movie; rather that the seeds of their eventual breakup were easy to see, even though neither of them was consciously aware of it.

Again, not at all, IMHO you’re reading things into it.

Interesting sideline: I actually rented all 3, and I noticed that when the T-Rex is tearing up San Diego it busts into a video store that has some weird posters, this is the only link I could find. I sooo wanna see Arnold do Shakespeare

[BrotherCadfael]

They weren’t in a relationship, they were just doin’ it.

[HazelNutCoffee]

			ELLIE
	You know, if you really wanted to scare the kid you 
	could've just pulled a gun on him.

			GRANT
	Yeah, I know, you know...kids.  You want to have one of 
	those?

			ELLIE
	Well, not one of those, well yeah, a possibly one at
	some point could be a good thing.  What's so wrong with 
	kids?

			GRANT
	Oh, Ellie, look.  They're noisy, they're messy, they're 
	sticky, they're expensive.

The above exchanged always seemed like a “couple” conversation to me. I’ve never read the book and it always seemed really obvious to me that the two of them were supposed to be dating. That and the exchange between Malcolm and Grant in the car.

Does anyone who saw the movie without reading the book think that they weren’t dating?