In this age of google, there are still too many myths that I have failed to question

[tldr: what myths have you embarrassingly failed to be skeptical about?]

I think these are mostly things that I was told authoritatively many years ago (probably by a man in a pub); and that I accepted them without question because, at the time, there was no way of checking them; and after all, y’know, I was told authoritatively, by someone who* clearly knew*.

Scroll forwards into the age of the internet, and google: but I* still failed to check them* – either because they were so obviously true (ie, entirely my fault tor believing them) or because they were things that everybody knows to be true (ie, everybody’s fault tor believing them). Only now am I recognizing some of the nonsense I have believed, in some cases, for most of my life. I’ll give you three recent examples.

In the vicinity of the Mont St Michel, the tide comes in faster than a galloping horse. Everybody knows that. Actually, I’ve started a thread in GQ on this, just in case there is somewhere in the world where this is true. But it sounds like BS to me.

In the UK you can be convicted of being drunk in change of a horse; or a boat; or a bike. (So far this is true). And if you are, your driving licence gets an endorsement, or you can even lose your licence. Absolute nonsense – I have believed this for nearly forty years! I only found out it was untrue by the simplest of google searches a couple of weeks ago.

**In the past, in England, people would be hung for stealing a loaf of bread. *This is a much repeated internet fact (in, just as an example, “10 Executions That Were The First Of Their Kind” - groan) – but it’s always the same case that’s quoted, that of 7 year old Michael Hamond (sometimes Hammond) and his 11 year old sister, Ann. But here’s an account from a seriously non-trivial website: “It has been suggested that the youngest children ever hanged in Britain were Michael Hamond and his sister, Ann, whose ages were given as 7 and 11 respectively in “The History of Lynn” written by William Richards and published in 1812 (page 888) [ie, 103 years after the events]. In other accounts they were referred to as “the boy and the girl” as they were both small. Research into parish baptism records by Michael Stern reveals that these two were almost certainly 17 and 20 years old respectively which is much more likely, as there are no other recorded instances of small children being executed at this time. They were allegedly hanged outside the South Gate of (Kings) Lynn on Wednesday, the 28th of September 1709 for an unspecified felony.” (My bolding.) So, nope, don’t believe that any more either.

OK, so we’ve established that I have a long history of being gullible. But it can’t just be me. Who else is guilty of believing an implausible myth for far too long, when they could easily have researched the truth?

j

    • Information taken from this page on this site, which I have referenced on these boards before. It is a remarkably (indeed disturbingly) comprehensive, detailed and well researched compendium of execution. Your go-to resource for the straight dope on capital punishment. I’m kind of pleased that it exists, but I definitely don’t want to meet the author. Ever.

Heh, I haven’t been to Mont St Michel, but I’ve been to St Michael’s Mount, and the tide there came in sloooooooooooooow. :smiley:

I mistakenly told a friend a myth about the origin of the croissant - that Viennese bakers started making them in memory of their victory over the Truks. She pointed out, completely accurately, why the heck would the symbol over their victory be the enemy’s symbol? Generally to commemorate a victory of yours you choose one of your own symbols.

Actual written evidence of the modern croissant dates it about 100 years too late for the “defeating the Turks” myth to be accurate.

Could have saved myself some very minor embarrassment by looking on Google.

Earlier in my lifespan, I heard a truism: “The three most overrated things are home cooking, home focking, and Mayo surgery”. Could this be true? And I won’t go into religious or political myths here, but my family long retained a firm belief in the efficacy of hot enemas. Is that treatment or abuse?

Oh pish, where is the fun in that? The best defense against this syndrome is to state (likely in a pub) very authoritatively some bit of nonsense to someone else. Why you say that the Great Wall of China can be seen from space? Really, I did not know that! But did you know that if you strike the stones that make up the Great Wall at the right intervals they will play a prefect musical scale? But this only works in the first section. You know it was built in 3 sections don’t you, each 100 years apart. Yes indeed!

:stuck_out_tongue:

That is a rather odd truism. Home cooking is great, depending on the home cook. Home focking? Does that mean sex at home or is that a typo for something else? Is that something that is highly rated specifically? I’ve heard people say they love so-and-so’s “home cooking,” but I’ve never heard the phrase “home fucking” in any way, much less talking about how much they love it. And Mayo surgery, as in the clinic in Rochester, MN? Who “rates” surgery there to begin with? (And, excellent institution, having helped a couple of my friends continue to live.)

Just a rather odd jumble of things to say are overrated.

Eh, someone had to approve the World War II Memorial which looks like it has more in common with totalitarian monuments than anything American.

Yeah, I have no idea about that “truism”. It doesn’t make any sense to me. I’d call it a falsism.

I like this. Perhaps as an aside we could compile a handy list of future suggestions for gulling the naive (likely in a pub). I have half a memory that this has been done before, but what the hell, it can be done again. I will ponder on this.

Meanwhile, over in GQ, there are people arguing fairly persuasively for the galloping horse theory. Help!

j

Agreed, but it’s not as though they built the WWII Memorial with swastikas and rising suns everywhere, and it’d be immediately obvious that there was something weird about it if they had…

I didn’t learn that “glass is only semi-solid” isn’t true until 2007, right here on these very Boards.

Eating the symbol of your enemy is the ultimate disrespect and sign of your power over them.

Note that the Hamantash at Purim is a symbol of the hated Haman that you eat to show your contempt for him.

Still, that the croissant’s documented history is over a hundred years after the Viennese defeat of the Turks (not hte Truks, as my earlier post would have you believe) is a pretty good piece of evidence against the myth…

Or is it? I see what you did there now… not being familiar with the story, I had to look it up :wink:

I was outraged when I learned that cats really have no purpose. I had always thought they came to humans because they were attracted by the rats in the grain, so earned a place in our homes. While I knew that cats are lazy jerks who are very good at taking advantage of us stupid humans, I always assumed that somewhere along the line, cats had a real purpose. I still am slightly outraged, but now I know its not my fault I am a sucker, its society’s fault!

(By the time cats arrived, humans had bred small, fierce dogs to deal with vermin. While some cats are amazing killers of rodents, most don’t want to spend the energy. They were attracted to us for the tasty garbage they could find, much easier than risking being hurt by a rodent who is fighting for its life.)

These don’t seem so much like myths as much as just mythinformation.

Not so much that I wasn’t skeptical of the original purpose of this breed of dog (as I was told once) was as a fighting dog for battle beside humans, as that the mental image is funny to me and I didn’t want to be disillusioned definitively.
When the day is going badly, one of my favorite things to mutter quietly is “Let slip the dogs of war”

It took me a long time to decide that I needed to know the truth(or not) of the story I’d been told, and the history of the breed (basically companion and hot water bottle)

You’re making a serious mythtake if you think we’re going to dismyth this easily.

I know a number of people, as adults, who believe that the oil in the ground came from dinosaurs.

I blame Sinclair.