A spillover from Great Debates, http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=56775&pagenumber=2
*Originally posted by Danielinthewolvesden *
Are not the negroid races taller & faster that the oriental races? No one denies there are differences between the races, to some extent- physically. However, Gould & co state that there not only is not, but I think that they believe there CAN NOT be any differences between the races intellecually. A scientific study showing that one race is inferior (slightly) than another is attacked immediately as “racist”. Do you think that Labradors are smarter that Toy Poodles? It is certainly POSSIBLE than one race is slightly smarter, on the average, than another. However, and this is critical- even if there is a small AVERAGE difference in the races- individual differences are far more important & radical than any minor racial differences. Note- this hijack is over. DDG asked a question about a belief that I think Gould has- which bears slightly on the OP. Any further questions, statements, etc will be ignored. However, i would be willing to defend this in another thread. End of Hijack.
Whoa, Daniel~, you might as well Open a New Window right now and start firing up the search engine, 'cause I’m gonna need to see a LOT of cites for what you just said. (And thank you, Polycarp, for proving to me that I wasn’t imagining it, that I did hear Daniel~ say what I thought I heard him say.) :rolleyes:
…Gould & co state that there not only is not, but I think that they believe there CAN NOT be any differences between the races intellecually.
They say this, and believe this, because it’s true.
A scientific study showing that one race is inferior (slightly) than another is attacked immediately as “racist”.
You say this like it’s a bad thing. Of COURSE it’s attacked as racist, because it IS racist.
Do you think that Labradors are smarter that Toy Poodles?
A quick tour of Google shows me that there is no real consensus in the dog breeding world as to which breeds are the most intelligent. Every survey I looked at was the opinion of one (1) person, usually a dog trainer, and differed radically in some respects from the very next survey. Some people think Labradors are smarter, some people think poodles are smarter.
However, there have been race-oriented human intelligence tests, and those tests have repeatedly demonstrated that there’s no difference in intelligence between the human races.
It is certainly POSSIBLE than one race is slightly smarter, on the average, than another.
No, it is not. If you think it is, you need to show me a cite that says so.
–even if there is a small AVERAGE difference in the races-
–which there isn’t–
individual differences are far more important & radical than any minor racial differences.
Nice try at backing up to a more politically correct parking space, but it’s too late.
Here’s MY cite--
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Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
Date: 1936
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
–where’s yours? You’re the one making the assertion–YOU be the one to go find me some cites that say:
(a) That the negroid races are taller & faster that the oriental races.
(b) That any race is more intelligent than any other race.
(c) That the differences between the Races of Man are anything other than, literally, skin-deep.