I’m frankly sick of the blind, unreasoning, bigoted hatred directed at George Bush. There isn’t a forum on the web these days that doesn’t have at least one asswipe show up in it to spew venom.
I am going to wrap all of the people who do that up into one bag and call them liberals, because they are the vast majority of people doing it. The liberals have had their collective shorts in a wad ever since the 2000 elections (which, like it or not, Bush won - deal with it) and they have been getting more vicious and more bitter as time goes on. All because Algore lost. The libs started throwing temper tantrums and haven’t stopped yet, like a bunch of spoiled brats.
All you can read these days is how Bush has lied about this or lied about that or lied about something else. Newsflash here, folks - if someone says something that you disagree with, that does NOT make them a liar. I’m tired of hearing this crap from the libs.
I don’t agree with everything Bush has done or not done. But I swear I’m gonna vote for him if for no other reason than to be able to cast a vote against the bigotry and hatred puked out on a daily basis by the libs.
Now, I’m quite sure a bunch of the libs will now jump on board and post about what an asshole I am and stuff like that. Knock yourselves out. Just keep in mind that every post like that confirms the accuracy of what I have said.
Well, I deal with it in the sense that I am critical of why he was given the election. I don’t understand those who say “it’s the way it is, deal with it”. Why should we just accept it because it has happened?
It does concern me that a) he did lose the popular election and b) I understand that some analysts are claiming that he should not have won Florida. The right to vote and have proper elections is incredibly important to America.
This does not mean that I cry “Hail to the Thief” whenever Bush comes on TV. He is, for better or for worse, the president. I know Gore was politicking just as much over it. I just wonder if it was truly just chance and honestly would like to have seen more inquiry over it. Corruption is something we should look for in our electoral system.
Ah, yes… I recall those high days of the Clinton presidency, where conservatives around the country held hands and said “By hook or by crook, Clinton is out president and God Bless America!” What unity, what glory…
…what bullshit. No offense to reasonable conservatives, but at the very least we’re criticizing Bush on the basis of his presidency, rather than his personal life.
Come on, there are always whiners. That’s the fun in a democracy! We can speak our minds.
Perhaps we are not saying that we disagree with him – perhaps we mean what we say and call him a liar.
Saying that there was definitive proof of an imminent threat on the US by Iraq via WMDs was, well, a lie. It may not have been Bush’s lie – Bush may not have known, though I suspect he was not sure of its whole truth – but it is a lie. This is important. We went to war on the basis of a lie.
Look, both sides have jerks. Yes, there is irrational hatred and frothing-at-the-mouth when Bush’s name is spoken. I think he’s a poor president, but I don’t wet myself over it. A lot of other liberals are the same way.
I am sure that you can see how odd I feel it is do label us with such a broad brush and accuse us of bigotry and hatred – look at the vitriole in your own post. Let’s get over the childish name calling and move toward a position where we can criticize and watch the government without being maligned and where both parties can express ideas rather than soundbytes. I’m all for that.
Here’s another newsflash for you. If someone says something that you disagree with, that does NOT make them blind, bigoted, haters. It goes both ways, you know.
I think you may be misunderstanding something. I can only speak for myself, but I suspect others feel the same way. I have no personal animosity towards George Bush at all. I’m sure he’d be a great guy to go on a fishing trip with.
I just happen to think that he’s the worst President we’ve ever had. I believe that almost every action he has taken as President has been detrimental to the well-being of this country and to the stability and future prospects for the rest of the world. I’m frankly amazed at how this administration gets it wrong so consistently. I’m not basing this belief upon some sort of blind hatred. I’m basing it on how I perceive the actions Mr. Bush and his administration have taken, on their policies, and on their goals.
No one that I know of is accusing Mr. Bush of lying because he has said things that he disagrees with. Those who accuse Mr. Bush of lying do so because he has said things that are demonstrably untrue, things that are factually incorrect. Of course, here’s where we get into a slippery area, because one can argue that, even if Mr. Bush has said things that have turned out to be untrue, he genuinely believed that he was stating the truth, and is therefore not a liar. Given the frequency with which this has happened, however, one can only assume either that he knew the truth, and was, therefore, lying, or that he didn’t know the truth, and is, therefore, incompetent.
It must be so hard to be a conservative. I can only imagine the pain of coming to a message board, only to see threads about Bush. None of that pain can be quelled by impeaching Clinton, Fox News, or owning the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the Presidency.
On the other hand claiming that we had conclusive evidence that Iraq had WMD was a lie;
claiming that Saddam Hussein was about to become an imminent threat to the U.S. was a lie;
claiming that there were material connections between Hussein and bin Laden was a lie;
implying (Cheney continues to repeat it) that Iraq had a hand in the WTC/Pentagon attacks is a lie.
Beyond the actual lies he has told, there are a number of issues that cause me to oppose him, including:
His “faith based initiatives” plan is a serious violation of the separation of church and state.
He claimed that California had created its own energy problems when it has now been revealed that his buddies at Enron staged the shortages. (This one might not be on his head–if I had been Ken Lay, I would not have trusted Bush enough to let him in on the plot.)
He has led the country into an almost insupportable level of debt.
He claims that God has personally directed his actions regarding the Middle East.
How is this different from what Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and their followers have been doing for over a decade now. Take a deep breath, Clothahump, and reread your OP substituting **Clinton ** for Bush and **right wingers ** for libs. Here, I’ve done it for you.
Blind hatred of George W. Bush? You mean there are people who say “I hate Bush, but I don’t know why!”???
Dunno about you, Clothahump, but all the folks I’ve heard espousing dislike of Bush have done so for solid, fact-based reasons. If you think these folks are dissing Bush for no reason whatsoever, you haven’t been paying attention.
–His own prejudiced vision of all things Christian and his obvious desire to push his beliefs on the rest of us. I do not care what his God says about homosexuals and marriage.
–The way he has potrayed stem cell research and cloning as science fiction and his desire to keep medicine from using these tools to improve the lives of all of us.
–I knew I hated him from the time I saw the reporters talking to him about his DUI he forgot (winka winka) to mention when running for President . Does anyone remember the holier than thou attitude he displayed as if to say “How dare YOU questione ME on such a thing??” Well Georgie Boy, if I lie on a job application, I get fired. You lied on your “application” to be President by failing to disclose your criminal offense.
–His questionable military record. Wait, let me correct this. If I were a male in the Vietnam era, I probably would want to get out of it too so I can’t blame him for that. What I do find disgusting is the cleansing of his records and the length of time it took to produce them.
–Honestly, I dislike the entire clan from the questionable dealings of his Grandfather around the time of WWII to his drug addicted niece who has committed prescription fraud on more than one occasion and still hardly gets her hands slapped.
So I guess that makes me one of the bigots Clothahump can’t stand. I have reasons for my contempt though and unfortunately for this Administratoin, I’m not blind.
So you’ve already decided that anyone who believes, on principled, reasoned bases, that GWB has done an inadequate job is automatically a “liberal”, and therefore to be dismissed automatically. That’s…ridiculous.
I’m an Independent and a moderate who wished strongly for GWB to do a fine job. Like it or not, most people aren’t so wrapped up in partisan politics that they want the country to flounder just to make a political point. I agree, those who would–are either “side”–are contemptible.
I strongly disapprove of GWB’s performance in office because 1. the country, and world, has suffered under his tenure and 2. he’s repeatedly violated conservative principles. Yelling “Liberal conspriracy!” doesn’t make his critics liberals, nor GWB an actual conservative. I have news for you. I recently attended a meeting of high-powered investment, lawyer, etc. types. They’re rock-ribbed, longtime Republicans–and not a single one of them approved of the job GWB has done.. Not one. There was some pretty bitter joking about how they’ve never in their lives voted for a Democrat, and don’t know if they could bring themselves to do it now, so they were considering just not voting at all. If you think they, or I, are happy about that state of affairs, you’re dead wrong. But of course feel free to dismiss that as kneejerk liberal ranting.
I loathe what GWB and the neocons have done to the Republican party. They’ve made it an increasingly divisive force, ridden by the religious right and badly invasive into the private lives of citizens. That’s a far cry from the Republican party of Reagan, Goldwater, etc. But go ahead and dismiss that too.
I hope you can deliver some proof of that, because at the moment I’m ready to call you one big fat liar. After all we are here to stamp out ignorance aren’t we?
I am not much of a supporter of Bush, but I was wondering if anyone has seen confirmation of this as well as the story that John Ashcroft anointed himself with cooking oil after he was appointed Attorney General.
And as an Arab and living in the Middle East
I am sick of your GW Bush the Mass Murderer who invaded a sovereign nation where relativdes of a woman I loved as if she was my own mother still live, and daily lmust undergo and witness the criminal occupation of their nation at the order of this sick criminal murdering lying Bush.
I am sick of it that this criminal not only invaded that sovereign nation, murdered thousands of its citizens and is still murdering them, cause dtorture of citizens of that nation, including children (and not only in prisons, all the thousands on who where wounded, hence were torutured by the weapons used against thme, were hence tortured at his command).
I am sick of it to hear from my dear deceased beloved’s relatives that there is no day, no minute, no second that they are not confronted with US soldiers who are in THEIR land at the command of the criminal Bush.
I am sick and tired of it to hear that they feel threatened and huminilated.
I am sick and tired of it tho hear the stories about the sick arrogance and sick rudiness of the US soldiers who are under the lead of the sick criminal Bush in their nation.
I am sick and tired of it that this criminal causes a wave of potential terrorist all over the region where I live. Where my family lives. Where my CHILDREN live.
I’m sick and tired of it that this criminal with his arrogance, an arrogance that can only be born in a sick criminal mind, destabilizes MY REGION OF THE WORLD from which he clearly thinks it is his playground.
I am sick and tired of people like you who DARE to find all of this absolutely normal.
IS THAT CLEAR YOU IRRESPONSIBLE STUPID COW WHO WANT TO THROW AWAY HER VOTE BECAUSE SHE HAS SUCH A GOOD FEELING BY DEFENDING A SICK CRIMINAL MURDERER AND CAN NOT WAIT TO TRY TO GIVE HIM 4 EXTRA YEARS DO GO ON KILLING PEOPLE IN OTHER NATIONS AND MESSING UP MY WORLD.
