In which I pit rapist-coddling liberals

Maybe, but I always thought of that as more race-based than politics-based. Kind of like OJ. When I thought about it at all, which ain’t often.

not sure how to coddle a rapist. Is it similar to ‘over easy’? or more like ‘scrambled hard’?
“sunny side up”?

Apparently, it’s the opposite of “fried.”

boiled???

soft or hard??

I’m so confused!

Coddled eggs are placed in boiling hot, acidulated water, but not kept over a flame. I don’t think “soft on rapists” refers to the same process.

Tris

There’s fairly widespread support in North Carolina for a moratorium on the death penalty. Note the precise word; much of the state is in favor of the death penality as a general concept. But to do my fellow Tarheels credit, liberal and conservative, Republican and Democrat alike, have taken the stand that the imposition of the death penalty seems to depend more on whether you got a good lawyer and a fair judge and jury than on whether your offense was exceptional heinous, and that “killing while black” is a capital crime. To ensure that the laws are revised to make sure that whether someone is sentenced to death depends solely on the aggravating and ameliorating factors and not on the quality of his legal representation or on latent prejudice, an increasing percentage of North Carolinians are advocating that we do not execute anyone until the laws are revised and the current Death Row convictions reviewed by a high court. Whatever your stance on the death penalty, you cannot help but support the efforts to stamp out injustice in how it is applied.

I am personally mostly against the death penalty, and this is one of the major reasons. Here in Illinois, we do currently have a moratorium on the death penalty, thanks to a Republican governor who saw one too many overturned convictions of death row inmates. (It’s a shame that he will most likely be remembered for his financial corruption & that within his administration, instead of this heroic measure on his part to bring justice to our state.)

I hear ya. I live in Philadelphia. The whole thing sets my teeth on edge too, and I’m not in favor of the death penalty.

And personally, I never heard anybody question it. I don’t think there’s any serious dispute (except for the usual conspiracy theories among the usual loony fringe) that Mumia shot and killed a cop. So this doesn’t actually qualify as a case of “a convicted felon who is believed innocent” or “believing in someone’s innocence for no other reason than that they have been sentenced to death”.

What’s behind the “Free Mumia” movement, AFAICT, is not a belief that Mumia didn’t actually kill a cop, but a belief that his trial was not honest and/or his sentence was unduly harsh. “Guilty but Framed” is how I’ve heard it described.

Throw Tookie Wilson into the pot. There’s another one that the left would like to anoint as wonderful simply because he wrote some children’s books.

If you can keep your conservative birdbrain to the point for just a moment instead of sliding off into irrelevant stereotypical anti-liberal ranting, you may recall that the disputed point here is whether liberals tend to “believe in someone’s innocence for no other reason than that they have been sentenced to death” (emphasis added).

Show me some evidence that “the left” or any significant part of it literally believes that Wilson was innocent of the crimes he was convicted of (rather than merely considering that he might have been innocent, or didn’t receive a fair trial, or didn’t deserve the death penalty). If you can’t, then Wilson’s case is irrelevant to the point actually under discussion.

I think this illustrates a fundamental disconnect between conservative and liberal.

Conservatives tend to be more black-white in judgement, and so sleep soundly in consigning people to death safe in the knowledge they “know” they are guilty. And have a clear enough conscience to slap a bumper sticker stating as much on their cars.

But liberals tend to see more shades of grey, and some, including me, extend this to a condemnation of the DP based on lack of 100% certainty. This is taken by some conservatives to be mentally soft on crime when it’s nothing of the sort.

Dutchman: But even though I am as liberal as the average Democrat and am also anti-DP, that doesn’t mean that the average Democrat is anti-DP! You’d be hard-pressed to find many anti-DP members of Congress. Heck, if this sad event happened in my neighborhood I’d want to slap a bumper sticker on my car myself, but I’d be afraid that my gut feelings about what should happen to the criminal if the events unfolded as we think they did would be conflated with a prejudicial certainness and a legal will to see the penalty take place.

Bricker: It’s true that date-rape apologists tend to be conservative, and I hadn’t thought of that irony till you posted that. (Which is not to say of course that most conservatives are date-rape apologists.)